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- hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se
- cross-posted to:
- hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se
The iPhone versus Android battle has just taken a sudden twist as hackers attack smartphones.
Archived version: https://archive.is/20251130104350/https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2025/11/30/israels-idf-bans-android-to-stop-hackers-iphones-mandatory/
Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
On the contrary. Someone posted evidence showing apple bullshit is not secure and yet here you are saying it’s a fact and that any denial of that would undoubtedly be rooted in some baseless fanboy shit. K.
Ps I used to like apple until I realized that everything they claim to be is a lie. That and their entire business model is to prevent you from using your device any way besides ways that make them more money.
What evidence are you referring to?
As far as I can tell my anecdote about my professional experience is the only context here besides the post.
Your ps is irrelevant, I’m a security researcher and spent the last decade in this field, specifically mobile security. I’ll take my professional experience over the it’s cool to be a tech tribalist opinion.
Disagree if you’d like, the device you use doesn’t matter to me at all.
Edit popped the thread in a browser and saw the other comment. They were refuted there too. Fucking hell dude why are you beating this drum?
You can pretend they didn’t post a link showing that an Israeli software company can unlock any iPhone. Pretend is all you can do though. Kind of telling that I explicitly said fuck Google but you still insist I’m tRiBaLiSt.
And you claiming to be an expert couldn’t possibly mean less. I have no way of confirming that and honestly even if I did it wouldn’t mean you know everything.
Enjoy your unsecure, unusable phone in a literal fascist ecosystem.
The link is 6 years old and includes dated information about Cellebrite. You should at the very least post updated information about the latest mobile OS versions vulnerable to Cellebrite. Spoiler: Android is very vulnerable and I haven’t seen information that the latest iOS is.
I legitimately don’t see the link you’re referring to, I’m not pretending about anything.
Maybe it’s not federating on my end, could you link it?
Cellebrite struggles with iPhones, and some newer Android devices. Is it another company?
You’re getting awfully vitriolic about this discussion, I’m not sure if you’re unfamiliar with the concept of tech tribalism but this is it basically to a T.
Again, use whatever device you want. My experience informs my anecdote which has you so upset.
Lol it’s exactly cellebrite. Maybe don’t talk up your expertise so much?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-tech-company-says-it-can-break-into-all-iphones-ever-made-some-androids/
Not sure if you blocked this user for proving you wrong in the past or what but it’s right there in the thread.
Cellebrite is unable to crack the latest versions of iOS. It can break Android, unless the user has GrapheneOS.
https://osservatorionessuno.org/blog/2025/03/a-deep-dive-into-cellebrite-android-support-as-of-february-2025/#the-february-2025-support-matrix
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2025/10/cellebrite-leak-raises-alarms-are-pixel-phones-really-hackable.html
Company makes claims they are unable to back up in real world scenarios, I have a professional relationship with cellebrite and access to their latest forensics kit they export.
It doesn’t open iPhones.
Occasionally THEY open iPhones, but we’ve had to send them to cellebrite and we are convinced they’ve found a novel way to break the lockout rather than the actual lock. It’s believed to be a brute force. And I’ve never had it work.
But yes. They claim that, but haven’t backed it up practically.
Christ that article is from 2019. That information is so old. They were opening old iPhones with a public exploit that Apple patched in 2019.
AND that claim was only about the iPhone X and older devices which they had a boot loader exploit for.
More recently leaked Cellebrite slide decks claim the exact opposite.
Ok. Maybe you’re right about all of that. I would have no way of knowing. Just like I still have no way of knowing that you’re right about android security. From many things I’ve read over the years, I’d lean toward iOS being less secure. But even if I never read any of that, it logically just wouldn’t add up that one platform would be much more secure than the other. I do know that they’ve been marketing themselves as all about privacy and security and that’s easily seen to be a pack of lies from light-years away. So given that I’m back to assuming they probably are less secure if anything.
Go read what graphene OS has to say about iOS then.
Or. Don’t make such assertive claims that you can’t actually back up or refute, as you’ve just admitted. 🤷
One thing you never hear about is a ring of criminals brought down because they were using iPhones, or a terrorist cell tracked with their iPhones. Part of it is socioeconomic BUT that also informs where threat actors operate.
Yes, you know the Dunning Kruger effect which states that if someone admits to not knowing everything, that shows weakness. Whereas someone claiming to know it all? Well they’re clearly omnipotent.
Iphones are trash. Zero reason to believe they’re more secure, and I doubt you’ll convince anyone otherwise. The commenter you claim not to see made a good point. Israel banned Android phones because they want to reliably spy on the IDF to prevent leaks. Not to help the IDF keep their data secure lol