It’s fine. You can upgrade to Fedora as soon as it’s done.
I’m surprised it took 2 hours for Lemmy to recommend Linux. We’re getting sloppy
I was genuinely surprised it hadn’t been said yet.
Let the arguing about distro choice begin.
Fedora is a fine choice…
This is linux, you could just not install that.
In this case IBM is involved tangentially but enough that I fear interference. Fedora already is opt-out rather than opt-in to diagnostic feedback.
I am also concerned about the priorities of the person who posted that. The comments indicate somebody who isn’t willing to listen to the fact that basically every output in the article is wrong.
I feel like the only “good” distributions nowadays are Arch and NixOS (everywhere else, you become a construction worker every time you want a slightly niche program), while both having shitty stereotypes about users. And Arch currently only properly works on amd64. And NixOS’s model isn’t for everyone…
Ackshually…
I’m not motivated to type up a response on mobile but I’m surprised there isn’t an argument comment yet. What are we coming to…
What’s wrong fedora? I’ve barely used it but it’s what I usually recommend to non tech savvy people, specificially the kinoite version (KDE + atomic updates).
Oh, nothing wrong with Fedora specifically. I also recommend Fedora KDE to people like this.
But, imagine you saw someone use a project somewhere online you want to try and it’s not popular enough to be in the repos. Now you have to git clone --depth 1 --recursive blah blah blah, source ~/cflags.sh, mkdir build, cd build, cmake …, make -j4…
Doesn’t sound difficult. But over time, your home directory becomes FULL of random ass git repositories. AND your /usr/local/bin is full of outdated stuff, sometimes overwriting updated stuff in /usr/bin. Having the AUR reduces that significantly.
For the AUR I agree, I use arch on my daily computer. What I’m more confused about is Nix, I still can’t see the general usecase, besides the obvious niche ones.
NUR (Nix User Repository)
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
Well we are talking about replacing windows, and I think the best drop-in replacement desktop environment for that is either Cinnamon or KDE. Thankfully Fedora has a version with KDE so we don’t have to argue!
That’s a weird way to spell Manjaro!
Loo roll and lotion besides the computer.
a mistake to use win 10 in the first place
Rip
“Cancel”
Right there.
I don’t recall the exact details anymore, and this is more a Gigabyte problem than a Windows problem per se, but at one point I couldn’t enter BIOS on startup because it wouldn’t accept USB inputs in their fast start up, and I couldn’t turn off fast start up without restarting with Windows secure boot of whatever, which was a small problem because while in boot it would accept numerical and function keyboard inputs, the option I needed was only selectable by mouse (and presumably touch screen) for God knows what reason. I also assume it was, in the before times, designed to be used with tab+enter as well but guess what key didn’t work?
Point is, I wouldn’t assume just because there’s a button they can click on it with Windows.
Or that clicking it won’t brick your system for that matter.
Having had this screen appear on me…
No, it didn’t brick any of the computers I’ve canceled this on. Then I went and did a quick regedit so it wouldn’t happen again. It will tell you when you cannot interrupt the changes.
Also, even linux has issues with some input devices, I’ve had it decide to use some unexpected keyboard format where keys don’t match and it doesn’t automatically load a mouse driver leaving you to try an alternative install that allows customization. But I got it installed just fine.
Real stretch there, trying to make sure “windoze bad.”
Mmhmmm, the vaunted “it’s never happened to me” line, very convincing
Not on this screen. I’ve not had a crash/reinstall since pre-Win7. XP? Plenty of times. Rebuilding registry hives. Reinstalling. Sure. Goddamn XP winsock error. 10? No. Occasional graphics driver issues when gaming? Yep. Seems like every second update.
Linux? Updates break my installs or installed apps all the damn time. Frustrating AF. Just tried updating my Raspbian desktop which broke my remote desktop install. Had to roll that back.
Nothing is perfect.
Believe whatever you want.
I’ve not had a crash/reinstall since pre-Win7.
Perfectly normal and believable.
FWIW, a ‘driver issue’ and ‘breaking an install’ seem like two different ways to describe a similar situation.
I offered it as the minimal issue I’ve had with the OS, not as a comparison to broken install of some sort.
Large tech companies aren’t known for their understanding of consent. Consider yourself one of the lucky ones that they actually asked you first.
At this point win 10 is discontinued, security updates have stopped haven’t they?
I get the hate for win 11 but it’s not a solution to stay at 10. You WILL get compromised.
11, Mac, or Linux. It’s an infuriating move but you have to choose, or get pwned and get your identity stolen.
massgrave.dev worked for me. I’m getting updates, most recently two days ago.
Win10 LTSC with the funny activation script gets you security updates until 2032, with no added garbage. That’s not viable for business owners, but should be fine for individuals.
I think some applications and drivers might have issues with Win10 after a few years.
That probably will be true at some point, but I use win10 LTSC as a stable platform to use apps incompatible with Linux until they have support (most notably VR). I’m also not using bleeding edge hardware.
Luckily Valve may already be solving the issue lol.
Yeah, Valve made gaming on Linux almost seamless. A few years ago I couldn’t imagine that I will be able to run almost any game on Steam without tweaks.
This feels like a conversation I had today with my son. He’s eager to get off of Windows completely, but stuck there for his Oculus VR support.
Windows 10 and have hackers steal your identity, or Windows 11 and have MS steal your identity? It’s a real Occam’s disposable razor kind of decision
LTSC or Linux
At this point win 10 is discontinued, security updates have stopped haven’t they?
That’s not really right. They are only discontinued for some editions, and only if you didn’t enable the extended security updates.
I installed pop os today. Really slick. Unfortunately i have a few things that aren’t linux supported and keep windows on dual boot. But oh boy, I can’t wait to give it the boot so hard. Linux is pretty cool and exciting for me, and i don’t really get everything yet.
Congrats on partially switching to Linux! pop OS is a great choice as it is very user-friendly from what I’ve heard. It may take a while to get used to things you have to do differently, but you’ll learn by using it.
Free updates for a year in Europe (I think only Europe is for free). Many years for “free” with IOT edition (what I do for my dual boot and my partner’s main)
As a Linux user of 25 years, I can still say not everybody can move to Linux, and not everybody can move to Mac or W11 (buy a new machine or tinker to install in old machines).
