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    9 months ago

    So, in the bottom picture, the staff can only passively look at the far away screens?

    “No touchy the keyboard!”

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        9 months ago

        To avoid accidentally fucking something up by bumping a key? Maybe they only pull them forward when they have to change something.

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          It’s probably also highly automated and the staff’s job is just to watch for irregularities and alert the necessary teams.

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            I mean, I’m all for giving jobs to humans and all, but isn’t monitoring a bunch of numbers and sending an alert when they go wrong one of the few things computers are actually objectively better at than humans are?

            Edit: Holy crap people. I understand that they’re probably not there for that purpose. That was the entire point I was trying to make. You don’t ALL need to point out the obvious to me.

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              It’s because of something actually does go wrong, it might take all of them to deal with the issue and the fallout

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              Aside from redundancy being an important safety thing, I’d guess they also have a pretty good idea what to do if something goes wrong.

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              I would assume that these people are there mainly because they know what to do if something goes wrong, instead of sitting there for easily automatable tasks.

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                I also have to assume they probably do rotations, like watch/guard duty in the military, of control room and more active work, or it would get suuuuper boring real fast. Plus their skills would get rusty if nothing ever happened.

                But maybe I’m overly optimistic.

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              9 months ago

              I think the computers do send the alert, via the screen to those people who then need to act on it.

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      9 months ago

      “Welcome to your new job Private. Here we run a fully automatic system. You just need to watch this screen and let me know if there are any issues with the bleeps, the sweeps or the creeps. Got that?”

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    I remember there was a water treatment plant or something similar that got hacked. The hackers started messing with the levels of the chemical mixtures to poison an entire city. The only reason it didn’t end in catastrophe is because there was somebody watching that specific screen at the exact moment it happened. Seeing this made that scenario more terrifying.

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      I actually cannot comprehend how people can think like this

      Saw a 4chan post claiming to be about making crystals that was actually designed to mislead people into making chlorine gas and poisoning themselves - how the fuck can anyone be that broken that they’d find that funny

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        Oh sweet summer child, you’d be surprised, but there’s shitton of people like that, they just so good at wearing masks irl that you’ll believe them instead of victim, if they get convinced that they gonna be unpunished or/and benefits (shit and giggles) outweigh consequences, they’ll do shit, i mean, in internet people let true unhinged self to act, if they believe they can do it irl too, then they’ll do it, i mean I’m a living magnet for cluster b personalities so I’ve experienced those unhinged almost my whole life, no matter how strange it may sound, I’ve survived few killing attempts and regular abuse/torture, and these type of people acting all innocent after all they done, these type of people feel opportunity to do shit a mile away, recently I’ve come to conclusion, these type of people will do shit if they think/feel they can

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        Humans are really really good at separating themselves from their own violent actions. For example, many humans drive a car and eat meat.

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          That’s not separation, but a different ethical concept or a lack of thought about one.

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          How’s driving a car violent? Not exactly good for the environment but I wouldn’t classify that as violent or seriously harmful to any individual (assuming you don’t run anyone over)

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            Risking someone’s life in the event you don’t have perfect attention aside, no matter what happens in the car you will PM10 dust pollution that gives little kids asthma, and if it’s an ICE car you will release CO2 that brings all life on earth closer to extinction. It’s one of the single most massively violent acts an average human is capable of.

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            The unethical treatment (borderline or literal slavery) to get the metals the car runs on. Same with real diamonds and gems, meat, many other things.

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              Which also applies to the phones/laptops people are reading this thread on, along with pretty much all technology we consider essential nowadays

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                Yup. You can live off the land, or you can be complicit in the pain of others. Most of us choose the latter out of convenience.

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    I also hope we move away from coal, but if environmentalists are hell bent on getting a bunch of Dell monitors and a few keyboards in a museum hit me up.

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      I know some environmentalists and I have heard that they want to put anything in the museum in that sense. But honestly having a replica might be good for a museum

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      Almost all of them do…

      (To be specific, the scada machines are commonly Windows, but the plant logic PLC/DCS are realtime automation hardware, that really doesn’t have OS)

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      They’re often simply not connected to the internet and left un-updated for years…

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    Is anybody even using those keyboard/mouse? They all seem like only for show with that distance between operator.

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      They just need to monitor the screen or put in the odd self destruct command once in a while