Manjaro 24.0 Since we released Vulcan in December 2023 we worked hard to get the next release of Manjaro out there. We call it Wynsdey. This is also our first release which comes with Plasma 6. The GNOME edition has received several updates to Gnome 46 series. This includes a lot of fixes and polish when Gnome 46 originally was released in March 2024. You can find the changes made to each point-release here: 46.1. Highlights of 46 release series are: GNOME’s filemanager comes with a new glob...
    • 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      34·
      7 months ago

      Arch is just as easy to install with a smaller ISO and a faster installer. Advertising EndeavourOS to inexperienced users will also lead to issues due to incompatibilities with the wiki due to dracut, the systemd firewall, and potentially systemd-boot.

      • unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de
        71·
        7 months ago

        First of all: it’s a joke.

        Second of all: no, Arch is not as easy to install, specially for someone who is looking at Manjaro as a possibility.

        And believe me, I was once a Manjaro user.

        And for 99% of Manjaro users, what they really wanted was Arch with an installer. Which is what Endeavour OS is. (Although I’ll never understand why Endeavour people didn’t just develop the tools FOR Arch instead of wrapping it all up as their own).

        • Allero@lemmy.today
          1·
          7 months ago

          Current (1,5 years in) Manjaro user here. If I’d want just an installer for Arch, I’d go with Archinstall. And I doubt I’m 1%, though nice installer might be a selling point for absolute Linux noobs.

          There is plenty of experienced people using Manjaro and recognizing its strong and weak sides.

          And yes, I don’t understand EndeavourOS as a separate distribution either.

            • 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              1·
              7 months ago

              People who are are not able to use or dislike a TUI install script should not be using Arch or an Arch based distro. Especially when taking into account that EndeavourOS doesn’t have a GUI package manager.

              At least Manjaro has a point with it’s slower repos and pamac.

              EndeavorOS is just Arch with Calamares, some welcome window bloat, and pacman hooks to have it be distinguished from Arch by neofetch; all at the cost of the install duration: the download is slower, the flashing is slower, the boot is slower, the installer is slower, even pacman is slower due to the hooks.

              You can just download in ISO of Arch with Calamares instead, if you really want it (example)

              EndeavorOS does not contribute anything to make the install process easier nor to the experience using it. Why it is still so popular after the reintroduction of archinstall really remains a mystery to me. I really only view it as a security risk due to the smaller team.

    • Allero@lemmy.today
      3·
      7 months ago

      Always had - they even have names!

      But the numbering is fairly arbitrary, as you can guess, and number normally changes with bigger updates.

  • ares35@kbin.social
    5·
    7 months ago

    upgraded here. no problems. didn’t even notice the version increment until i went looking for it.

    • Allero@lemmy.today
      1·
      7 months ago

      Yeah, it’s never visible. I normally figure it out when I go check if Timeshift is operational (it always is, I just love double checking).

  • ghostblackout@lemmy.world
    834·
    7 months ago

    I don’t like Manjaro or almost all arch bases distros because they just kinda suck and if you get mad I don’t care

    The arch bases distros I like are steam is that’s it

    Edit for people that don’t know how to read I use arch I just don’t like arch based distros except steam os

    • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
      121·
      7 months ago

      Can you elaborate on why you think they suck? IMO most of the Arch derivates fill very good roles. Arch itself is a nice distro but you can never suit every user, and the derivates do things that Arch itself would never do.

      Most importantly I believe there are lots of people who would have never used Arch vanilla but they get to enjoy “second hand Arch” and that’s a good thing, isn’t it?

      My take on the most prominent Arch derivates (forgive me if I forget any, it’s off the top of my head):

      • Endeavour has a rapid GUI installer. It may seem like a small thing but sometimes you don’t want to go through an uber-customizable multi-hour install process. It’s not a beginner vs advanced thing; seasoned users can also want to save time. This installer goes against the Arch goal of providing full install customization so it will probably never be in Arch, but it is useful.
      • Garuda goes one step further and offers lots of optimizations out of the box. As great as it is to have complete freedom to configure your system sometimes you want a distro to step in and do it for you.
      • Manjaro goes in another direction and attempts to be “stable Arch”. That may sound like a wierd thing to do with a rolling distro but it works suprisingly well. The catch is that in doing so it sacrifices a lot of what makes Arch Arch; it has a “mommy knows best” approach and tells the user to not customize their system too much. This of course is complete Arch heresy (which probably explains all the rage against it). But I think it has struck a good niche as “Arch for the lazy” – people who would like a rolling distro but are afraid of bleeding edge.
      • LovePoson@lemmy.world
        5·
        7 months ago

        Pretty much, yeah. Definitely agree with you on that one. I use Manjaro mostly bc im lazy to install regular arch and also bc I actually found that delay in the update cycle to be really good in my case. With regular arch the times I used it broke a lot more than what Manjaro ever did for me, and I’m not that particularly interested in “bleeding edge” that much, but instead I liked arch and arch based distros because of the compatibility and tools I need. The AUR is amazing, and there’s tons of custom repos to be added on top of arch which give me said tools I need to use + (yeah im lazy as hell).

        So yeah, Manjaro is pretty much a bit of a more stable arch for lazy people, so right up my alley!

      • Allero@lemmy.today
        2·
        7 months ago

        Happy Manjaro user here. “Mommy knows best” approach greatly helps to get onboard with Linux without shooting yourself in the foot.

        If I would be offered to start my journey with Arch, I just wouldn’t begin this transition to begin with.

        And now, I can enjoy a lot of benefits of Arch, be it rolling release, independence, AUR (carefully though), from the comfort of a nice and easy to understand system designed with regular user in mind.

      • ghostblackout@lemmy.world
        1·
        7 months ago

        Endeavour is ok I just did like it that much I like that wallpapers

        Garuda gave up on it in the installer like the look those jelly window should never be on by default and my ThinkPad Just Said No when I tried to install it I have a t480 I was testing it on there before I put it on my main pc

        Manjaro I never got it to work properly just unstable there package installer is worse then discover (discover is not bad I just can’t get it working when I install it)

        I’m fine with people using arch bases distros I just don’t use them and I won’t force backs arch on anyone

        • someonesmall@lemmy.ml
          1·
          7 months ago

          Can you elaborate what didn’t work on Manjaro? Just curious, I’ve been using it on my gaming rig for over 5 years without problems.

    • 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      37·
      7 months ago

      Not liking Arch is exclusively a skill issue. You may prefer stable release distros, but you won’t find a rolling release distro better than Arch.