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        4 months ago

        “Cult like” would be thinking Americans are going to elect a Black woman as their next president.

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          I’m not sure if I understand the points you are trying to make. Could you please elaborate? A) this meme is about records broken, not “wins.” A president winning a second term would not break any records. B) why wouldn’t Americans vote for a black woman? C) why would the thought of Americans electing a black women be “cult like?”

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            this meme is about records broken, not “wins.”

            Read the title.

            why wouldn’t Americans vote for a black woman?

            I said Americans will not elect a Black woman as president, not that they will not vote for a Black woman as president. Many Americans will vote for Harris but it’s not going to be enough to win the election. The US is conservative country with a predominately White national identity where non-Black minorities like latinos are moving further to the right and increasingly see themselves as part of the White national construct. Harris was very unpopular as vice president and is polling well behind Trump in every key state. She has just over 100 days to turn all of this around.

            why would the thought of Americans electing a black women be “cult like?”

            The American left suffers from Trump-induced cognitive dissonance. It is so fixated on defeating Trump that it cannot acknowledge that there is a reality in which Trump can and will win. This steadfast denial of reality resembles the behaviour one would find in a cult.

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              Thank you for the detailed response!

              I see now that you were responding to the title and not the content of the post.

              To further round out my knowledge and understanding, could you please point me to additional information about Latinos moving further to the right, Harris’ popularity, and polling data showing her well behind Trump in key states?

              I’m also curious to see examples of the American left refusing to acknowledge the potential of a second Trump term.

              Thanks again for helping me understand.

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                It is true that the polling of Harris, both as vice president and versus Trump, is likely to be at least somewhat influenced by the unpopularity of Biden. It’s possible that her popularity could rise now as a presidential candidate facing Trump. However, as I noted she only has around 100 days to change an unfavourable perception of her that has existed for years at this point. I doubt that is enough time for a significant shift in her public image, particularly since she is still the current vice president and continues to be directly associated with Biden’s presidency.

                I’m also curious to see examples of the American left refusing to acknowledge the potential of a second Trump term.

                I can’t really answer this in the same way I have answered your other questions. It’s my personal opinion, based on the narratives and discourse I see in the American media and among left-leaning Americans on social media. After the shock of the 2016 election, people seem to be retreating further into their left-leaning bubbles and refusing to accept that this can and likely will happen a second time, rather than engaging with the other side and trying to make sense of the country they live in. The 2024 campaign has been an absolute disaster for the left so far, yet now that Biden has removed himself from the race there seems to be another wave of delusional celebration from people who think Harris will beat Trump by virtue of being younger and not Biden.