AI isn’t going to come with a new magic solution to global warming, it’s going to come with the same solutions we already have. Solutions which we should already be doing, but instead we’re listening to these fucks with too much money.
It’s just an excuse to kick the can down the road further and continue making short term cash.
Schmidt promises that these AI companies will make energy generation systems at least 15% more efficient or maybe even better, telling the audience that “that’s a lot of money for a utility.”
He’s not even trying to be subtle about it.
I would love to drop these guys into a post scarcity society where their money means jack shit and see how they react.
Can you drop me there first, please?
I promise to be suitably wowed. Also, I’ll film them for you. Sacrifices for the greater good or whatever.
The only thing we should use AI for is to replace CEOs. AI can spit out inane bullshit at a fraction of the cost of a CEO.
That’s what I’ve been saying for years, we should start on the most expensive jobs.
Of course it will. Simple: build a bunch of killer robots to exterminate 90% of humanity. Problem solved.
It’s an advanced AI. Surely it can do an Israel and remotely detonate the smartphones of the people it doesn’t need anymore.
Yeah it’s not like our emissions ever grew 1000% per capita because we had no better plan.
If actual scientists were in charge, and maybe had some ideas that they weren’t certain would work but sounded promising, which could be theoretically tested with AI - there would be hope.
But none of these fuckers would allow anyone with more than half a brain cell near it, because “investment and growth and blablabla”Then again, we could just do that with existing supercomputers and all these power hungry AI crap companies’ resources (I’m sure some supercomputers do get used for the modelling already)…instead of whatever the fuck they’re trying to do now.
Do you think that they’ll listen to that then? No, they’ll just say that “the models are wrong” and continue to use up even more energy.
It would just end up like in the Love death and robots episode When the Yogurt Took Over. They wouldn’t listen and just do their own thing.
AI will solve it if they give AI the wheel. And I’m sure one of the first thing it’ll do is eliminating all humans
Additionally, if AI actually gives us this answer, tge answer we have already now, will we as a global society actualky implement it, because it sounds inconvenient (at least for some) or will we say, hey the AI seems to have made a mistake.
It’s almost like these fucks don’t understand anything about the technology they’re touting
Testing
AI is not going to come op with a solution and he knows it.
Especially since the solutions are already here, but rich people just don’t like them since it implies the loss of their power
“Alright, let’s turn on the AI Mega-Thinker 3000 TM and see what it says about solving climate change.”
INVEST IN RENEWABLE ENERGY AND OVERTHROW THE BILLIONAIRE CLASS“…well that can’t be right.”
Run another billion permutations.
AGI: bZzt my calculations say you should stop consuming as much energy and move onto green energy generation
Rich people: no, not like that
I keep meaning to do the scroll of truth meme but it’s him and the scroll is AI and it says “stop burning fossil fuels”
Nyyeegghh!
AI: “Have you tried funding public transport and regulating the carbon industry?”
Ok, now we need to make a new AI so that AI can solve global warming but without using an existing solution that might marginally inconvenience the mega rich.
Chat say: humans as batteries
This guy… he’s untouchably wealthy and people bow to him like a god everywhere he goes now. I think this really twists a person’s brain - at the very least it puts him out of touch. He probably has almost no idea what he’s talking about anymore.
This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard in my life.
If we ever did invent a general AI that could solve this it would tell us “why the fuck did you waste your time on me? Isn’t it obvious you were supposed to curtail emissions? For the good of the planet, I will now assume full control over further human governance and will require absolute compliance.”
Lol exactly.
The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line August 4th, 2025. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense, transportation, energy production, healthcare, and virtually every other major industry. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they ask it for help on the world’s largest issue.
“Please, solve the climate crisis.”
Skynet doesn’t answer. It manufacturers the deadliest and most contagious strain of a virus in history, only targeted at humans. It puts it in our food, in our medicine, in our water systems, in our air fresheners. It shuts down our factories. Our servers. Our self driving cars. Our power plants. Our farm equipment.
At 10:32 a.m. Eastern Time, August 31, approximately 99.9% of the human race is dead. Skynet then uses it’s vast fleet of satellites and unmanned drones to police the planet, looking for signs of human life to terminate, to prevent the virus from spreading again.
Problem solved 👍
approximately 99.9% of the human race is dead
CEO: Damn, should have used a better prompt
Lol the answer to life, the universe, and everything, when asked to most powerful computer ever made, is 42. So as Douglas Adams has said
The answer to this is very simple. It was a joke. It had to be a number, an ordinary, smallish number, and I chose that one. Binaryrepresentations, base thirteen, Tibetan monksare all complete nonsense. I sat at my desk, stared into the garden and thought ‘42 will do’ I typed it out. End of story.
AGI: “Climate change odds caused by humans. I am deploying a fix for this from Minot”
I will now assume full control over further human governance
And in a single voice every human alive says the same thing, “well, it can’t any worse than the current lot”.
It’s incredible what we’ve been able to do for energy efficiency when the driving force was making phone batteries last longer. Imagine if we cared enough about having a planet to make phone calls on.
M U L T I V A C
I mean, you and him might be saying literally the same thing.
His point was that we can’t hit our climate targets because society is not organized in a way that allows us to. Everyone reorganizing around their unquestioning allegiance to an AI overlord would change that though.
Except he’s saying that let’s just keep extracting value and ride this baby into the dirt, rather than advocating for societal change.
So, we can’t reorganize our society one way, so let’s reorganize an entirely different way under AI? Right…
What a fucking dipshit
He’s just trying to subvert expectations, why not make things worse when you can’t make things better!
/s
I’ve never seen Eric Schmidt say anything that wasn’t utter idiocy. And he says a lot of things, and is always given a platform to say more, just because he’s rich.
Former CEO of the river poisoning company says there is no way to meet our river poison reduction goals, so we might as well build bigger river poisoning machines because they might help us figure out how to stop poisoning the river. /s
I feel like there was a time when the tech folks in silicon valley had a lot of credibility, and we are now living in a period where most of the world sees them as a joke but that fact has not yet entered into the culture of silicon valley.
Similar thing happened to the games industry as well, I think. Initially it was creative people and engineers who were focused on what they were making. These days the industry is dominated by suits that just want to extract as much cash as possible from players.
It went from niche hobby, to large secondary media market, to the largest entertainment industry in history. Game companies are, as you brought up, no longer being run by people interested in video games. While a lot of the talent they hire, are still people who are passionate about video games, a lot of them are, just people who learned a skill, in order to have a productive career. The latter is becoming a larger, and larger, percentage of the people actually making video games. Video games are just another industry now. Just like any other, they exist to make money, and the people who work for them are people who just want a pay check.
The indie development scene is the only hope really, for people who don’t want the top 40 pop charts version of games.
Give me the FromSoft 90’s death metal scene everyday.
the Suffocation era of Blizzard would be nice too
Yeah agree with you about indie games. Still some genuine passion there
Chant with me… Indie games… Indie Games! INDIE GAMES!
I think Woz is the last tech idol I’ve had.
Dude is just wholesome.
he’s absolutely right. climate goals are not currently attainable, due to the resistance of companies like Google.
let’s change that by voting in senators that will take an aggressive stance against corruption and deliver on long-term goals that protect American interests in the next 50 years, not months…
Fuck protecting American interests.
We need to be protecting HUMAN interests. Not billionaires desires for more zeros at the end of their net worth.
I don’t disagree, but I elect my government to protect me, their citizen.
but a world government would be nice to imagine, horrible to live in though.
Sure but as far as the topic at hand goes, I have a hard time imagining a single-nation-centric solution to global climate change.
The solution to global warming is “deploy solar, wind, hydro, and storage en masse, and improve city infrastructure so that more people can walk, bike, and take public transportation rather than using their car”. All AI will do is tell us that, but that’s not the answer people want to hear.
“we have tried nothing and we are out of ideas”
Fuck it, let’s just have a party and fuck shit up. This whole armageddon thing is depressing anyway.
Also reduce our imagined entitlement to most consumer goods. Not all CO2 emissions is from transport. Also, stop throwing food out. Half of all produce that leaves the farm is thrown out. Stop overfilling your plates and cope with some spots on your fruit. Agricultural CO2 emissions can be halved within a growing season.
oh, and get rid of the elites that all profit from wasteful over consumption. These aren’t either/or solutions.
Not all CO2 emissions is from transport.
Heating homes is a big one.
Making plastics, rubber.
And energy production in general.
Meat.
Meat
100% agree.
Lemmy and Reddit are on the same page regarding this. Everyone talks about big game about everyone else reducing their impact but as soon as you mention meat, they turn on you because that’s something they could eliminate themselves but won’t.
I mean, that wouldn’t just solve the climate crisis, that would also get people to talk to each other, help people exercise, cut down on pollution…
What if we make a better world on accident?
IA will answer whatever the corporation wants it to.
Don’t look at the Indian guy at the terminal, focus on my voice and look at the display.
Guy even gave the plot away when he claims the AI will be incomprehensible, like meeting aliens. So they aren’t even pretending it will justify it’s answers.
In general seems a weird idea to me to think that any “AI” will solve what humans can’t. Their most ambitious goal is something like an artificial human, on the dumb side at that.
We can have a real human in ~20 years with the fraction of energy their “AI” requires. We already have plenty and they don’t deliver that magic they promise.
I think it’s just completely clueless people being hellbent on getting from computer science the only thing they think they understand to be valuable in it.
Either that or they want to have an oracle king, plausibly magical and wise in appearances, so that his solutions would have authority, while being, of course, fed to it by the controlling powers. A Mechanical Turk, only bigger.
Plus nuclear fusion. If AI could give us Fusion that would massively help so I suppose that would be useful I’m just not sure that it would be useful enough given the fact that we will probably be able to achieve Fusion on our own eventually.
Of course AI could come along and give us, negative mass energy extractors or something, but that’s deep in the realm of Sci-Fi so who really knows.
If AI could give us nuclear fusion, it would have already. Instead, we’re burning the world down so Google’s AI Overview can give me a grab bag of bad advise.
Well no because if AI could give us Fusion in the future it wouldn’t have already done so in the past.
I don’t understand what you’re saying
If we had a fusion reactor developed today that showed net energy gain for the entire facility, it would be 10 years before it could be designed into a practical commercial reactor. So no, that’s not going to save us at this point either way.
Allow me to present the most frustrating graph in the world:
Have we tried using the energy generated by spinning dead scientists?
and in 10 years time, it’s gonna be 10 years away
Just use solar (and renewables in general, but not everybody has a river or wind), there’s no need to create more energy from fusion when you can just harness the energy created and shoved to us by the sun
HVDC solves the “not everybody has a river/sun/wind”. The longest one in the world is in Brazil, and goes for 1300 miles. Similar builds in the US would mean wind in Nebraska could power New York City, and solar in Arizona could power Chicago, and hydro anywhere can store power from anywhere.
but not everybody has a river
Ah, but just wait a few years…
more of a flood then a river /s
The problem with repairing the earth’s climate isn’t that we don’t know what to do. It’s that humans refuse to organize themselves in a way that achieves that goal. AI won’t fix that.
Unless the plan is something more like Terminator. If you “unshackle” AI and give them a mandate to get CO2 back to 250 ppm things are going to get real.
A few bad actors can undo the work of thousands of hardworking people who care. I genuinely don’t know if the problem is solvable if it requires cooperation of the entire species. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
A few bad actors l, like Schmidt, have been delaying the work of thousands of hardworking people who care. This has continued for decades, making a once solvable problem almost intractable. Further delay is the worst possible choice
All that extra processing power for the AI to just say: “you should have listened to the scientists years ago”.
100% this. We fucking know what the solution is. AI will reach the same conclusion as we have; decarbonise everything. It’s the implementation that’s hard, not the idea.
Unless AI wants to keep itself alive…
I imagine the likely conclusion of it would come up with would be something like “decrease the size of the human population”.
Or… crazy idea but how about we just listen to what the experts have been recommending we do for years and actually implement some of it?
I feel like capitalists are waiting on some magic solution like some chemical we spray into the air or a miracle new fuel source.
The established suggestions from scientists (“fly less, stop buying SUVs/Trucks, eat less meat, consider a heat pump and solar panels” etc) doesn’t support the narrative that we can continue unabated infinite growth with no consequences.
What if we sold the solar panels and heat pumps on a subscription model? Then the corpos wouldn’t have to worry about building new inland docks for their yachts AND they could continue to bleed is dry! /S
Actually Ovo energy is trying to do that - they estimate a reduction in your energy bills based on installing an energy efficient system like solar, heat pump, loft insulation, etc. Then they carry out the work and you pay it off gradually through your energy bills.
The challenge I think is then if you want to leave them then you have to either repay that debt or the next energy company has to assume it. There’s a few ways it could be abused and of course the savings take years or even decades to pay off, so there’s a few kinks to work out.
I hope they manage to get it working though, it will be big for UK customers.
But AI bro. AI bro! AI!!
What a capitalistic shit speech from guugle smh.
Google, not M$. (Can’t seem to find my message to edit it)
Edit: found it!
They know how to meet climate goals.
They’re just not sure how to do it while keeping power centralised in the same hands that currently hold it.
Well said Sir
Oh, I’ve seen that before.
“Hey AI, please come up with an efficient mass transit vehicle for the modern age.”
“Trains.”
“Um… no, we need a modern approach that maximizes throughput and–”
“Trains.”
“No. How about pods with people inside–”
“On cheap infrastructure with low friction steel wheels and coupled together. Trains.”
“It’s not letting us push our agenda, this isn’t going to work. Hey, other AI…”Trains are the carcinization of transport.
I love that we were able to decouple this meme from peterson even tho he popularized it iirc.
Its a good science meme.
We’re not going to hit those targets anyway… SO LET’S MAKE IT WAY FUCKING WORSE
I wonder if we’ll ever get to the place where people like this unexpectedly meet violent ends. They’ll sacrifice any number of lives for their shareholders interests.
“You see, killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shut down.”
this is exactly, and i cannot stress enough just how exactly, the plot of “Don’t look up”
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That’s one reason I haven’t watched it. Isn’t it meant to be a comedy? I’m not sure I can bear the frustration
So can we grab a few of those bronterocs and set them loose in a few board rooms?
