I know and can accept the response that say I should register to X site if I want more activity. I do plan to, least with Reddit, just biding some time before I make yet the 20th disposable e-mail and probably the 100th account before it gets banned again if I cross a glass person. Glass person being someone who’s so fragile on opinions and things that they’ll scream ‘BAN THEM BAN THEM!’.

I’ve been on KBin Social, Lemmy World (least 2 dedicated accounts), KBin Run, Mastodon, Blue Sky .etc

And I’d stay for a good while but I also found myself bored immediately. I check for questions to answer, it’s the same questions I’ve seen days and weeks prior. I check around for things that are reported and they’ll be hours old and some of them can be years old.

I love the idea of the Fediverse, I like some of the features that are implemented. Especially when you do ask questions on here and you’re allowed to expand on it. Unlike AskReddit for example, they don’t really like that and will remove your post because explaining what your question is about and backing it with an example is just unacceptable to them.

I don’t know. 43,000+ people sounds a lot on paper, but in practice, it feels like you’re dealing with 50 people at any given day.

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    For more diverse content I indeed wish, but you can’t build a healthy social network with an explosion of members without the moderation and toolings required to handle such a wave.

    I’d rather be there while the Fediverse grows organically and gather my info from multiple sources the old fashioned way.

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      Yeah. I feel like Lemmy doesn’t have the tools needed to moderate a larger community outside of defederation.

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    No.

    I have actual internet friends here. People who, based solely on their efforts and words and interactions, align with my own beliefs and ideals and help me temper and adjust accordingly as time goes on. Adults. I’d happily stay like this or with more, similar people, growing slowly and legitimately.

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      Agreed. The past year has been a great change from other social media personally. I was Reddit only for the prior 7 or so years and Lemmy feels like a time hop back to pre-dystopic Internet days. I approach it more like my favorite forums from the 90’s-00’s.

      Less content and users are ok when it leads to more civil engagement’s.

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        Same here. I find lemmy very relaxing. Multiple times a day I’ll see people admit they misunderstood and upvoting each other. It’s quite refreshing. Sure people still be people but. It feels like we care and aren’t throwing trash on the floor. Whereas Reddit everyone will wipe their ass on your nose.

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          I firmly believe that the reddit takeover was a part of the grand region destabilization plan to sew discord and resentment in our society by foreign powers. I caution that I am not unaware that it is exactly what or alphabet agencies have been doing to the rest of the world.

          Communication among humans is the only defense. Cheers to you, friend! Thanks for contributing to the conversation.

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            Honestly not a wild conspiracy. The “bad guys” would not want us to socialize/communize as that would only make us stronger in the long run and force them to compete harder.

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        I was digging through old foot lockers from my army days, a while back, and found an old AOL 2.0 CD. I did not toss it into the fire, however. Fond memory friend, thanks

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          I also have fond memories of those AOL days. When we knew it was real people we were interacting with. What a world of difference now. Glad you made it here! Cheers.

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            You are on the list now, dawg. Another real person who I shall look forward to conversing with in the future. Exciting! Gotta assign you a color, hmmmm how do you feel about chartreuse?

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              Fuck yeah. I’m in man. That is damn near my favorite color. You got the touch. Always nice to meet good ass people.

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    For me the biggest problem is not volume in general but volume of niche content. The best thing about Reddit was all the active, engaging communities that would sprawl around any niche subject you could imagine.

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      You know, you actually hit the nail on the head in the context I had failed to articulate. Like yes the Fediverse does have some interesting communities, but they’re communities we expect of the fediverse to have that everyone else has. But, it does not have a dedicated Nostalgia community, it does not have AbruptChaos or anything else. Just the basics.

      And I think if more people took on tasks like running the communities while educating people the benefits of the fediverse, then we can see a bit more growth. Because the point of the matter is if people are desperate for a Reddit alternative, they’re going to want to feel like they’re home. If there’s nothing here that’s going to help make them feel that, then they’re going to just stick to Reddit for better or worse.

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        But, it does not have a dedicated Nostalgia community, it does not have AbruptChaos or anything else. Just the basics.

        There’s only so many communities you can maintain active with 45k monthly active users

        And I think if more people took on tasks like running the communities while educating people the benefits of the fediverse, then we can see a bit more growth.

        Why do you think we don’t?

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          There’s only so many communities you can maintain active with 45k monthly active users

          Then you’ve just proved my point then on how little there is to do and see beyond the basics. One would think that with a number such as 45k, there’d be a lot more communities around than just the general stuff.

          And I see that you’re running multiple places as is. I’d like to see more contributing users than just one dude.

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        I think if more people took on tasks like running the communities while educating people the benefits of the fediverse, then we can see a bit more growth.

        This is the way - be the change you want to see in the world.

        Lemmy isn’t the size of Reddit, so it isn’t at a place where the vast majority of users can just passively consume content.

        If there’s a niche for a community then start it. If you want more Mods, keep an eye out for active posters and ask if they want to help. If you are unsure about starting a community or want help from the start (as it might be popular) then start a thread on !fedigrow@lemm.ee. The more active communities, the more likely it is for the next wave of users to stick around and some of them might start new communities.

        If you build it they will indeed come and stay.

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      1000% agree. But to Lemmy’s credit, I found a greate niche community of linux and programming enthusiasts, plus I’ve noticed I run into Europeans more in the wild on here.

      I think the fediverse has it’s benefits. Still not a full replacement. Truthfully I don’t think it will ever be, those niche communities will always end up being hosted where it suits them best.

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    I just wish it had more diversity.
    Everyone’s a white 40-year-old born male Linux admin in here.

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    I personally love the smaller userbase. Less spam, more quality, less screentime, no doomscrolling. Its a win-win in my book.

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      Plus you get to see the same accounts, the entirety of Lemmy feels like a community

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      Same. The only thing being niche subs on local stuff. But I remember early Reddit, and that had the same feel. Maybe with a bit more generalized memes because the hivemind was so much more exciting.

      But the lack of automated astroturf and shorter comment sections makes it easy more pleasant.

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    I would say I miss some specific people or groups, both on Lemmy and on Mastodon, rather than generally “more” people. Friends of mine, certain people I used to follow on Twitter that haven’t made the jump, some communities about specific hobbies, that sort of thing.

    Overall, I enjoy the fact that I can get a rough idea about who is who instead of interacting with a mass of faceless strangers.

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    Yes there needs to be more people. There’s barely any active discussion here. If you don’t want to shit on Israel, there’s just shit posts and Linux. We need more people to get active sports discussion, movies, TV, or anything else.

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    Yes, I wish there would be more. But I am okay with the state it’s in. The engagement is good enough, and I discover interesting things every other day. You can’t force it anyway.

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      When I used to have Reddit on my phone, I’d look at it as soon as I woke up. There was new content constantly throughout the day so I kept coming back.

      Lemmy doesn’t have the content churn, so I can genuinely just look once a day and spend an hour or so catching up. No FOMO! I much prefer it.

      However I do miss some of the niche subreddits that got reasonable activity on Reddit and absolutely zero activity here. They were my favourite part of Reddit.

      I’d take more activity in those niche places, but I don’t miss the addiction I had.

      Spez let me go cold turkey for a while. Thanks (fuck) Spez.

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        Niche subreddits can have good content, and also I find myself looking at Reddit threads that come up in web searches, like if I search for a tech problem I’m having. But yes, the behaviour of Reddit as a profit-hungry corporation makes me want to not use Reddit or see their ads.

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          Same here, Reddit has a lot more people one there. With more people posting funny memes, videos and other things that make using Reddit more enjoyable. I try to limit my time on Reddit as much as possible

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    I used reddit for two things: news, and niche subcommunities around small hobbies and fandoms.

    We’ve got the former here, but I don’t know if we’d ever have enough of a critical mass to sustain the latter. And that sucks for me, because I no longer have a good space for that stuff, but I still don’t ever want to go back to reddit now.

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    I worry sometimes that the reddit exodus brought mostly bellyachers.

    The sheer boringness of these repeated questions about the size, growth, health of the fediverse.

    Fuck metrics. Jesus, do you mot get it at all?

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      Agreed! Seriously people this is not reddit. It does not have a bajillion users. Stop asking for it to have a billion users! This question has been asked So. Many. Times. I’m content with the amount of users here, of people want to invite more than invite more, but what is this post? “I have noticed that there are fewer users”. Correct! Next question.

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      If you think this question is being asked too much, go and sit at AskReddit sometime. Count the many, many times you will see questions like ‘Why are you single?’ or "What would you do if someone gave you a million dollars?’ or similarly worded questions. They are posted by the hour, almost nonstop.

      You get a question like mine like once in a few weeks or a month maybe. But you hadn’t seen anything until you check out AskReddit.

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    Since the vast majority of website users are minimally engaged, I would love for a few more active posters for stability of content and discussion, but not a massive influx of users just to have users.

    I also don’t want a plethora of users who get banned repeatedly for not being self aware that their behavior is the problem. The occasional crossed wires ban, no biggie, but thinking there are so many glass people that creating dozens of alts is necessary is not a good look.

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      …if someone’s been banned on the order of twenty times, it may behoove them to contemplate whether they’re the problem rather than the communities which keep banning them…

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    Maybe less content is good? Infinitely scrolling is not great, and we all know that. Having limited content on Lemmy allows me to at least move onto something else.

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        Yeah and it depends. The fact that there is no easy way to search the fedi for similar posts right now is a bit cumbersome for sure.

        I see a lot of new users post something that has already been answered a 10000x times (What’s the best Linux distro? It depends !) And luckily there’s always someone to give a mature and comprehensive answer to a new comer without scaring him or down voting him to oblivion. This shows that there are a lot of people who believe in Lemmy and are ready to repeat themselves to keep Lemmy alive and give new comers a warmly welcome ! However I have only seen that kind of interaction in the Linux/self-hosted communities… Most memes/ask Lemmy/political views/… Communities seems rather hostile on their own opinions and quickly become a cesspool of anger and hate :/.

        Also a lot of people think because some communities have a lower user base they won’t get any answer or interaction I was quite surprised to get a comprehensive answer and help in the bash@lemmy.ml community which has only 50 users/month !

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          I wasn’t referring to that kind of posts, since they “plague” Reddit too, but the posts from Reddit that gets crossposted on Lemmy. It’s like there is little to no original content here. Maybe mastodon is a bit better, though I feel like it’s slowly dying ngl

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            Likely to promote and increase activity people will try to repost what was already popular on reddit. It’s no different than movie studios wanting to only make movies that have preexisting fanbases.

            I don’t think there’s much that can be done other than being patient and guiding how things grow. Reddit took a decade to build. Lemmy’s journey will likely be long, but it probably won’t take 10yrs. Solutions to existing problems will happen over time.

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            This whole thread is wild with Lemmy expectations lol. Reddit is a link aggregation site, same as here. Are you wanting more artists and authors posting on here for it to be considered “original”? All the links to articles or sites people are posting…aren’t really considered original. There are plenty of discussions going on that are original, but they tend to be upvoted less than posted link content so you have to usually search them out in the actual community.

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              This whole thread is wild with Lemmy expectations lol.

              Yeah, it feels like people have expectations like the website is 100k or 200k monthly active members. We are barely 45k, so the scope has to be limited

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    Use the site less frequently and you will discover more content each time you come. I kind of like how it moves slower.

    Of course, I want the fediverse to grow to. If it ever moves to fast I can always block lemmy.world and be crazy with my fellow dorks on lemmy.ml

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    I do, yes, especially for niche communities. But other social networks aren’t the answer. Go look at what Reddit has become, or Twitter, or Facebook. It’s all junk. Half of it is AIs talking to AIs. There’s almost no meaningful conversation taking place. At least here we occasionally get some good conversations, although those are rare outside of politics and Linux.

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    The largest Lemmy instance is the most boring, full of unfunny memes and the worst Redditor culture. What you want is high quality postrs, not simply more people!

    As Lenin said: better fewer, but better.

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      At this point I’ve blocked so many .world communities that I don’t see that as much. There are some users who I notice bring the reddit antagonism and I tend to block them too. If I come across a post that is full of reddit quips I just block the whole community. I guess I’ve blocked fewer .ml communities overall.

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        Good on you! I bet that is actually working out great. I should try something similar with another account.

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      I don’t know. I do understand the preference of quality over quantity, but there is a limit. There’s a difference between reddit anime discussion, where each episode discussion has hundreds of diverse opinions - most being shitty - sure, but while the voting system is flawed, the interesting comments do tend to rise. and between lemmy’s anime discussions, where an episode has…let me check: between 0 to two comments: https://lemmy.world/c/anime or https://ani.social/c/anime. That is really sad. Not to mention that reddit has so much niche subreddits

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        Be the change you seek! Most anime communities will let you post episode discussions, and if your instance is active enough you’ll draw viewers sorting by new.

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        Having enough users for a community is important, I agree! I think that with the current size of Lemmy userbases, communities are often more like topic flags than self-sustaining niches.

        Though to pick on Reddit, every time mods crack down on bots their subreddits decrease in posts and comments around tenfold. A lot of the engagement is fake. Mostly to boost numbers for financial reasons but they can also serve as a means of controlling behaviors and narratives.

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          So you think if something is bad enough it is ok to discriminate again. Meaning you place the bar of disparaging some contend at around average value , so not at high elite value.

          That can hold. It still depend on your value judgement of the content in question. Someone could think that lemmy.ml contend is “unfunny garbage”.

          The point of a site like this one, is that not one person is the decider. Not you or me. Users vote what is or is not funny, so that the “avergagely” funny systematically go on top. The more people they are, the more the average will mirror the real world population… I think considering the average population to not be “worthy” is pretty elitist. There are a lot of problem in such a site: Hive mind, trolling, mass vote, bot usage… But discriminating against normal human user (even the worse one) doesn’t seems to me like a solution

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        It’s not really elitist, Lemmy was founded as an alternative to Reddit, but Lemmy.world is a repitition of it, not to mention the anti-Marxist pro-zionist moderators. It’s understandable that people leaving Reddit don’t want the same thing as Reddit.

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          Hum I doubt even the majority of mod are “anti marxist” or “pro zionist”… may be you’re looking at the more active communities, with few mod over them… But for what I read I never had that impression

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            Here are a few examples of the mods denouncing Socialism and Marxism, and they perma-banned me from political memes for going against the liberal narrative for “misinformation and posturing” despite leaving up the Zionist lie that the Palestinian genocide is a 1000 year conflict. This is also when one of the moderators claimed they weren’t censoring anyone and were incredibly fair on a comment chain calling out their censorship, and refused to elaborate. They would not even tell me how I could edit my comments to comply with their rules.

            They defederated from Hexbear “as a last resort-” before ever federating with Hexbear.

            In the Lemmygrad defederation thread, there’s unsupported claims of hate speech and calls to violence, which we have to fill in the blanks - the mods are anti-Marxist and anti-revolution, so any Marxist instance is going to fail that test.

            The Hexbear defederation thread is somehow worse when they list why instead of leaving it to the imagination. Read some of the top comments, it’s clear that it was anti-Socialist in motive. Real spooky scary zingers listed as evidence in the post like “The West’s role in the world, through organizations such as NATO, the IMF, and the World Bank - among many others - are deeply harmful to the billions of people living both inside and outside of their imperial core.” This statement is 100% obvious to anyone not stanning the US Empire.

            Another example listed is “These organizations constitute the modern imperial order, with the United States at its heart - we are not fooled by the term “rules-based international order.” It is in the Left’s interest for these organizations to be demolished. When and how this will occur, and what precisely comes after, is the cause of great debate and discussion on this site, but it is necessary for a better world.” Yet again, they are defederated for being Marxists, and therefore being revolutionary. This is just because they are authentically Marxist, not because posters were mean.

            The mods of Lemmy.world are Liberals. Not just any liberals, but “true believers.” Marxism is dangerous to them and so they shut it out, they spelled it out plainly.

            Even your leftist meme in Political Memes is getting you called a “tankie.”