Summary
During a House Oversight Committee hearing, Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC) repeatedly shouted an anti-trans slur despite objections from Democratic Rep. Gerald Connolly.
She defended her remarks by attacking transgender rights and dismissing criticism.
The outburst drew condemnation from LGBTQ+ advocates and political figures, highlighting her shift from previously supporting LGBTQ+ rights to embracing anti-trans rhetoric.
Mace has used the slur in past statements and introduced legislation restricting transgender rights.
T**nny today
F**got tomorrow
N****r next week
This is escalation to test the waters
They are not testing the waters, there isn’t a plan. They are just bigots doing hateful things
You are right in that there may be escalation because sooner than later these assholes will realize Trans people are so few as to be invisible to them, they’ll once again see their own lives are pitiful and move onto hate someone else just to feel good about themselves for a hot minute
They are not testing the waters, there isn’t a plan.
This is the plan
Where does it say they’ll strategically start saying certain slurs in public in there?
Just because someone is a bigot doesn’t mean they aren’t following a plan. Testing the waters and normalizing bigoted thinking are things bigots do on purpose.
Notice a similar pattern? Nazis went after trans folks first. Don’t let them dehumanize trans and non binary.
These fascist bastards are going to learn something about some of the rights we have as Americans to protect ourselves from tyranny if they keep going down this road.
Against rando MAGAts, sure, but against the government? It’s going to take more than commercial-grade weaponry to take on the military.
The US government has lost all wars against gorilla warfare since i have been alive. And that is with an untouchable economy, uninterrupted logistics, and numbers.
None of that would be a thing in a revolt of the US. US Civilian weaponry is some of the finest in the world. And a 22. Will kill a man just as dead as a .50 BMG
This is a government of the absolute worst people.
For the absolute worst. The votes were not rigged.
We’re not going to take this lying down
The votes were not rigged, more reason for us to be ready.
Gross. You are become them. Classic American - apply a bit of stress and you cry Guns!
Before this year, I was absolutely anti-gun. I’m a teacher, and it chills me that every time I enter a classroom I think “how the hell am I going to get these kids out of here if shit goes down”. That’s how I start my Monday’s.
Owning a gun at home is statistically more dangerous to you or someone you love than to an intruder.
Most school shooters are taken down by unarmed teachers who work together.
But we aren’t facing intruders or school shooters. We are facing the proud boys, Jan6ers, and now the federal government. I normally don’t believe in violence and weapons either, but the context has changed and now we cannot rely on promises of public officials to keep us safe. We cannot rely on the police to keep us safe (as if we could before). We cannot rely on any market force to keep us safe.
Only we can keep us safe. This shit is getting real, and for those of us who are most likely staring down the barrel of a fascists gun, we can’t just let that happen.
I hate that this is the reality.
I should never have to consider these things.
But in America, every conservative and their mom is carrying, and we in the cities have been complacent. Obviously you are not from America. You don’t understand the sheer amount of guns here. Sadly it’s creating a feedback loop and to sit unarmed is to be a sitting duck in a civil war/ genocide situation.
The time for the idealism of pacifism is done. If you are neutral you are on the side of the oppressor.
I was a complete pacifist for a couple decades. Now, I’m a believer in peace through being a hard target. You cannot rely on the basic human decency of sociopaths to save you. You need to deter their aggression by making it more costly and risky.
My wife was against guns. She hated my guns, didn’t even want to lay eyes on them. She bought a 9mm last year.
I’d think it this way: Get the training anyway, hold off buying if that’s morally (and understandably so) difficult.
If shit hits the fan before you get one and/or it’s otherwise too late, there’ll be chances of obtaining one in the middle of the shitstorm one way or another. Maybe someone friendly has one, but never got around to proper training? Good thing you did. You can help out and try your best to utilise it as morally but also as professionally and efficiently as you can.
Slightly more long term, you can assist training others, if using one on live targets still feels objectionable (and rightly so!) to you.
Learning the craft and proper handling will not go to waste, if it starts looking even worse than it does now.
It can be good, too, to help others use the things more safely and otherwise properly. May save lives. And you need not take any, not in defense or otherwise, if that’s important to you.
Owning a gun at home is statistically more dangerous to you or someone you love than to an intruder.
Something missing from this concern about statistics is that it lumps together the people who leave loaded guns on their bedside table with those who take reasonable precautions like storing their guns in safes or using trigger locks.
I think for those who take those precautions and follow the safe handling rules, guns are safe enough to have at home.
The stats are real though. As ownership goes up, more of these events happen since people make these mistakes at a predictable rate. What might be safe for you doesn’t necessarily scale to the masses. Hence, some caution is recommended when making recommendations for the masses.
Quite a few of these stories that go like “he was cleaning his gun and it went off” are just disguised suicides.
Only you know if you are experiencing suicidal ideation. If you are, don’t get a gun.
If you have a gun and start to have those thoughts, give your gun to someone you trust and talk to a psychiatrist.
You could also do my method from when I was a hardcore suicidal alcoholic. Get totally blackout and hide it from yourself. Took me months to find it. Really though don’t do that.
You have to understand the realities of America…
When assholes like the Proud Boys or Patriot Prayer can invade your town at a whim…
And it turns out THEY’RE WORKING WITH THE COPS…
It’s contingent on every responsible adult to be able to protect themselves.
When someone with guns is coming for me, what do you suggest I should do? Sweet reason? Aikido?
If you don’t understand the situation, don’t judge. There’s a big difference between persecution and resisting persecution.
I understand the situation. An arms race is a losing option. You do you - choose violence. Not for me. It’s always an ugly option, and rarely the winningest strategy on this sort of guerrilla level.
If fascists are coming to kill you or take you to a camp wouldn’t you like to take at least one with you? What if they’re coming for someone you love?
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No u. I remember when Lemmy wasn’t just a bunch of assholes. You wear your intellect on your sleeve sir, and the shirt is a wife-beater.
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When has fascism ever taken root and been removed without violence?
When has it been done at the level of individual citizens taking up arms in an unorganized fashion?
Read this and tell me what you think please. I was convinced everything was mostly legit until I read that. Author provides their credentials at the end if you want to check that out before wasting your time.
With the presence of russian tails and donald telling people not to vote he has plenty, doubt.
I actually read the article and clicked on the link to the hearing back and forth and can’t find what the anti trans slur was. Honestly I can’t think of what an anti trans slur would be so I guess its possible I somehow missed it but I assumed it would be obvious.
Saying “tranny” is a slur.
ok yeah. I would have picked up on that I think. I did not see it. I mean I get they don’t want to say the slur but having to rely on someones basically opinion on what is what is sorta difficult nowadays.
The MAGA Cult holy grail is when they can keep their careers intact after shouting the N-word in the capitol and say that they don’t care.
They’re almost there. Keep sleeping, murica
The actual stripping of protections, the laws they are or will pass, those are bad enough already, but sometimes it feels like the worst part is just how brave these bigot shitfuckers have become now that their pet nazi is in power. They don’t even have the decency to be afraid to fly their hate flag anymore. They were always shitty people, but at least they used to feel like the country at large would reject them for expressing their true feelings, hence all the pushback against “Cancel Culture.” Now, though, they’re not even afraid of ostriziation, much less anything more substantial.
I hope she chokes on her vomit in her sleep.
Realistically, I’d be happy for her to choke on pretty much anyone’s vomit. Extra points for creativity.
I volunteer. I’ll eat some weird shit
A whole bag of Skittles please, so she can taste the rainbow
You, I like.
The dye will all mix so it unfortunately won’t be rainbow colored, just a gross uniform brown
The same could work with the right combinations of chili, OJ, corn, peas, blue cacao (or any blue booze), and purple cabbage.
It’s gonna suck a lot more for the vommiter, but she doesn’t deserve to die with a sweet taste in her mouth.
While she’s awake would be better.
That’s tough. If she’s awake, chances of survival sky rocket. I don’t like those odds.
Oh, that’s true, you didn’t specify that she died from choking on it.
That’s rich, coming from a sandwich-maker that left the kitchen.
We need to speak more regularly about how these people obviously have kompromat on them and are being actively blackmailed - no sympathy as they are garbage humans regardless, but these changes in stance are so swift and violent. These people often have a history of not caring or even supporting these issues, before they become over the top, performative hate mouthpieces - it’s so obvious that they were basically told by Republican operatives at some point, “you’re gonna do what we say or we are going to fucking end your pleasant life”. Again, no sympathy there because the underlying subtext is that these people do shit horrible enough that they can be blackmailed with it. But this is Mace as recently as 2023:
“I’m pro-transgender rights,” she told CBS News’ The Takeout in May 2023. “I’m pro-LGBTQ.” The Republican lawmaker made the comments while saying she opposed gender-affirming care for minors. “Sex change surgery, the hormone blockers that sterilize our children, we shouldn’t be doing that,” Mace said. “Now, if they want to take on a different pronoun or a different gender identity, or grow their hair out, or wear a dress, or wear pants, or do those things as a minor, those are all things that I think most people would support. Be who you want to be, but don’t make those permanent changes when it’s a child,” she added.
Not a perfect position by any means, but centuries away from what she is today.
And here is after she was first elected in '21:
She was one of the only Republicans to sponsor the Serving Our LGBTQ Veterans Act in 2021, which proposed establishing a Center for LGBTQ Veterans within the Department of Veterans Affairs. That same year, she even called for “transgender equality” while asserting herself as a pro-LGBTQ+ rights lawmaker. “I strongly support LGBTQ rights and equality,” Mace told the Washington Examiner. “No one should be discriminated against.” “It isn’t a black-and-white issue,” Mace added. “I do believe that religious liberty, the First Amendment, gay rights, and transgender equality can all coexist. I’m also a constitutionalist, and we have to ensure anti-discrimination laws don’t violate First Amendment rights or religious freedom.”
Bigoted bitch
Methinks this Caitlyn Jenner doppelgänger doth protest too much.
God this bitch is so desperate to cling to her 15 minutes of fame.
What a vile human.
This seems a bit obsessive and more than a little unhinged. I had the unique experience of being interviewed in a state committee and the experience can be overwhelming. The idea that someone would act up this way feels performative, dramatic, and to repeat the word, obsessed.
How come the reporting is censoring the word?
Hate speech is censored to avoid normalizing language intended to encourage violence against the disempowered.
It makes no sense. How people know the word that should not be normalized? I’m non-native speaker and after all blah blah in this thread I still have no idea what is the word. So if someone says it, I won’t even know I should call out that person. Don’t we normalize using slurs by softening reporting? If slur censored why would bigots stop using it if they are not properly shamed? All it does is just hiding issue from media with no effect IRL. IRL, US elected bigot
Google “trans slurs.” You’ll find it.
I’m going to send it to you in a DM. I agree with you.
Oooh, nicely put.
Before your comment, I was thinking, “why not show the word? What word could it be? I’m a big boy and it won’t hurt me,” but … after your comment I think I get it.
I may have to take this away and think on it, and thank you for the catalyst.
Fuck yeah. Personal growth for the win.
Yeah but you could report without reporting the word if that is the case. You could keep the fact “the slur has been used” yet they go the extra mile to put it and censored it it. The reporting should just say the fact that a representative used a discriminatory language. I agree with you that we are on for 4 years of hyper normalization https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperNormalisation
It’s pretty funny. The whole article is about her using a specific slur but it won’t even mention what the slur was. Well done good reporting.
Right, I mean what the fuck is a trans slur?
Most likely tr**ny
That used to be the word I used for the tranmission of my car. Not any more. Bigots spoil everything.
There was a push years ago to stop using slave and master in IT. It did not work.
It kind of did. Git changed its default branch name to “main”.
I think switching away from master/slave vocabulary is probably for the best. Getting rid of “master” in other contexts seems dumb to me because master has always had many uses not connected to slavery.
One that I surprisingly find myself agreeing with is replacing blacklist and whitelist with allow list and deny list, but not because I think using colors is racially insensitive; it’s because allow and deny are more clear to people from different cultural backgrounds.
I never would have thought about cultural connotations of black and white. Yeah I can support that change.
They use that word in “family friendly” automotive related YouTube channels all the time without getting dinged for demonitization or bans etc. Maybe their moderators have learned context?
Maybe. Reminds me of that Tim Minchin bit about context.
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Hate speech is intended to encourage violence and dehumanize others. Censoring the word helps build the social taboo that discourages the use of hate speech and helps isolate people who insist on using it.
Adults take responsibility for the effect their words and actions have on the world.
Just like we can’t say Voldemort right? I dunno in reporting they should report what is said. Reporters should be asking. “What do you have an issue with. Diversity. Inclusion. Or equity? Don’t be shy get specific for me!” But they are all billionaires whores.
No censoring word is for cowards and assholes. Same as banning books. Stop censoring words were not children and no one hear is encouraging violence. Just trying to get the full picture. Just like I will call that GOP member who used the slur a fucking cunt.
Unless you’re trans, that isn’t your call to make. You don’t get to decide that it’s ok for people other than yourself to be exposed to slurs. Stay in your own lane.
Speaking as someone who has been subjected to slurs and violence for who and what I am - why should simple exposure to slurs be where we draw the line? For me it was almost always about the hatred behind them; discussions about someone else’s hate for me are going to hit the same whether the words are printed or not.
I don’t think the word should have been censored here - either print it or drop the quote.
Nor do I think a report critical of someone using slurs is normalizing the use of them by quoting them. This isn’t the casual use of slurs in everyday language as a synonym for bad.
But I’m just sitting here, genuinely wondering what the slur is she used, because I have no idea. I’m not well versed in trans slurs. Idk, news reporting should at least give me some way to find out… Like a spoiler tag to click on. Just… something.
Two of my children have trans boyfriends, and I am not advocating for us to go around insulting people with slurs. My comment was why are reporting sluring words. We should know what the bitch said. It’s Congress we have right to know what they are saying and doing. Parts of lemmy seem to be turning into reddit. Next they ban people for speaking against fucking nazis or saying to punch a fucking nazi.
Slurs are different and similarly not allowed on lemmy.
We’re* and here*, child.
You’re wasting your time. I got banned from somewhere else earlier for talking about this. They are so unbelievably sensitive that you can’t even type out a word in a conversation about what words count as a slur without them taking that very discussion as a slur. Zero thought from them as to how that might become a problem down the line.
They don’t see any difference in saying a word while discussing the word vs using the word directed at someone with malice. They are incapable of understanding any nuance in language.
Yeah it makes me think of how Samuel L Jackson always has to defend Quentin for always using the N word. Reporters always wanting to say he is racist. They just don’t get it. Its always about context. Even Stephen King uses that word in his books even today. Banning words or saying don’t ever use those words is a slippery slop. We can’t run around calling for freedom then ban words.
Unless its nazi then that the only exception in my mind. But that because nazi shouldn’t exist. But I will just leave it alone. I am a supporter of the trans community, especially since I personally know several trans people and will fight for their right to exist. Anyone who thinks ill of me or thinks of me any other way don’t jack shit about me.
Grow up.
The internet is amazing. You see someone with their light coming on and showing growth and then you also see this guy in the same post.
As an exercise to the reader, the above post was exercising the slur liberally in an attempt to claim it’s “barely an insult”
Mods seem to think otherwise :)
Damn, what a fucking bigot.
Lol and black people say the n word all the time why can’t I say it too? /S
One law.
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Not even the same.
