Your comment perfectly represents the moral bankruptcy of the Democratic party. The obsession with elections and compromising, even when the midterms are almost two years away.
A proper opposition party would hammer the substance and put the institutional failures on full display. If you don’t have principles, there’s no point to winning power anyway.
Have you considered that maybe moral bankruptcy isn’t the most effective way to win elections, at least not if you’re presenting as the slightly-less-right-wing option? The Democratic party is broken, nobody is buying their shit any more, and that’s why someone like Trump can get elected. There is no opposition party. It’s not a problem that will get fixed by ignoring it.
I love the way you write off all the Asians who were getting killed by the Japanese. To say nothing of the US Merchant Marines who died delivering food and weapons to Murmansk. Stalin was the Donald Trump of his time.
Your far left candidate has lost how many times in a row now? Maybe you helping the far right will keep that losing streak going as your country’s politicians recognize the far left will just keep losing. If you want to stir to the left, you don’t go right, like your country just did this election.
Yeah, Progressives stayed home in 1968 because they couldn’t support Humphrey and we got Nixon.
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Jee I wonder why. You guys already liked to kill brown people back then
Do you really think calling them hypocrites is gonna work when it hasn’t the 5000 other times?
Dems don’t need to go after republican voters or smear republican. It’s been shown that obviously does not work. They need to be a party people want to vote for.
In WW2 the most progressive people on the planet lined up to get help from the racist Americans and the British empire because they saw Hitler was worse.
If you need to be coaxed into fighting Trump, you’re not anti-fascist, you’re desperate for attention.
BTW, I donated to Bernie in 2016, 2020, and 2024. It was the Progressives who failed me, not the Dems.
I’m mostly just confused by what you’re even trying to say about my post here? I said stop doing what doesn’t work and start doing something good? And your response is… uh… hitler was bad? I don’t?
Also, if you think the dems have nothing to do with progressives losing, then lol.
To think progressives are dropping the ball, but not the DNC, who has sued 3rd parties off ballots, pushed back as hard as they can against progressives(including spending DNC money against progressives in primaries & running attack ads on 3rd party), certainly is a DNC style take.
To say “not being trump” should be enough is fucking wild. That is the epitome of democracy huh? “You can’t vote for a good candidate, or one that would represent your ideals. You must vote based on who you hate most! You have to support the system that forces this! it is good! and balanced!”
I mean, if you think it’s progressives, the group who actually shows up to vote THE MOST, and who also do tend to vote Dem are to blame then I’m glad the DNC propaganda is working for you I guess.
But like, literal studies have shown progressives show up more %wise to vote than any other group. And also you can look at vote numbers and see left 3rd parties are like 1/3rd the votes of right 3rd parties, showing most progressives do still vote dem. A lot who do not are in places like California where Dems gonna win anyways, or Florida where Dems gonna lose anyways since they literally gave up on Florida since the last Governor election.
Too lazy to find the studies again because I’m busy. You can google it if you don’t believe me I don’t care.
Again, people not showing up to vote is the DNC’s fault for not being a party people want to vote for. If they cannot energize the vote they lose. They have not since Obama. They’ve refused to learn from that because money. They are the ones who are allowing Trump. Not progressives. Progressives control almost nothing. They have no say in the DNC. They cannot stop them from doing stupid bullshit. They’ve tried, but rather than learn and adopt progressive policy from Bernie or 3rd parties the DNC has decided to alienate them as hard as possible including fighting against them. They’ve decided they’re owed their votes anyways so they don’t need to appease them.
Do you want to win an election or do you want to be morally superior?
Everyone in America heard the Republicans go on and on and on about Hilary’s emails. That’s where they are vulnerable.
Shilling for a 3rd Party at this late date is silly at best.
Your comment perfectly represents the moral bankruptcy of the Democratic party. The obsession with elections and compromising, even when the midterms are almost two years away.
A proper opposition party would hammer the substance and put the institutional failures on full display. If you don’t have principles, there’s no point to winning power anyway.
By your logic, no one who opposed Hitler should have taken aid from the capitalist and racist Americans or the British empire.
Look at the real world. the GOP is using every dirty trick imaginable, but we should lose with dignity and honor intact.
Have you considered that maybe moral bankruptcy isn’t the most effective way to win elections, at least not if you’re presenting as the slightly-less-right-wing option? The Democratic party is broken, nobody is buying their shit any more, and that’s why someone like Trump can get elected. There is no opposition party. It’s not a problem that will get fixed by ignoring it.
What aid lmao the USSR defeated Hitler.
The American rushed to Berlin because communism was more scary than nazism
I love the way you write off all the Asians who were getting killed by the Japanese. To say nothing of the US Merchant Marines who died delivering food and weapons to Murmansk. Stalin was the Donald Trump of his time.
They were getting killed by a fascist ideology that america brought out with their gunboat diplomacy.
Do you want to win an election? Because what the DNC is currently doing hasn’t worked very well for that.
Your far left candidate has lost how many times in a row now? Maybe you helping the far right will keep that losing streak going as your country’s politicians recognize the far left will just keep losing. If you want to stir to the left, you don’t go right, like your country just did this election.
What far left candidate?
The left that’s too far from winning.
Yeah, they ran a Black woman and got fewer votes than the White guy.
Almost like the Progressives stayed home.
Yeah, it’s almost like progressives aren’t interested in identity politics, and stayed home when the supposedly-leftist party told them to shut up.
Yeah, Progressives stayed home in 1968 because they couldn’t support Humphrey and we got Nixon.
They couldn’t support Hilary and we got Trump.
They couldn’t support Biden/Harris and we got Trump two.
So much progress.
Progressives are simultaneously not worth it for the democrats to represent, but also are 100% to blame when blue conservatives lose to red ones?
Maybe when people think literally Hitler is better than you, you should take a step back and try to figure out what you’re doing wrong.
Jee I wonder why. You guys already liked to kill brown people back then
She’s a token
Do you really think calling them hypocrites is gonna work when it hasn’t the 5000 other times? Dems don’t need to go after republican voters or smear republican. It’s been shown that obviously does not work. They need to be a party people want to vote for.
I’ve been saying it for a while now.
In WW2 the most progressive people on the planet lined up to get help from the racist Americans and the British empire because they saw Hitler was worse.
If you need to be coaxed into fighting Trump, you’re not anti-fascist, you’re desperate for attention.
BTW, I donated to Bernie in 2016, 2020, and 2024. It was the Progressives who failed me, not the Dems.
I’m mostly just confused by what you’re even trying to say about my post here? I said stop doing what doesn’t work and start doing something good? And your response is… uh… hitler was bad? I don’t?
Also, if you think the dems have nothing to do with progressives losing, then lol.
I’m responding to that idea.
If you need to be coaxed into voting against Trump you’re not anti-fascist, you’re desperate for attention.
And progressives like AOC and Omar managed to win inside the Dem Party.
Like I said, I’d love to be able to vote for an actual Progressive. Too bad they keep dropping the ball.
To think progressives are dropping the ball, but not the DNC, who has sued 3rd parties off ballots, pushed back as hard as they can against progressives(including spending DNC money against progressives in primaries & running attack ads on 3rd party), certainly is a DNC style take.
To say “not being trump” should be enough is fucking wild. That is the epitome of democracy huh? “You can’t vote for a good candidate, or one that would represent your ideals. You must vote based on who you hate most! You have to support the system that forces this! it is good! and balanced!”
I’ll pass dude.
Is that what you’d say to that guy who is sitting in a jail cell in El Salvador right now?
I’ll pass dude. You’ll just have to wait until I get a candidate I can believe in?
I wish I had that privilege.
I mean, if you think it’s progressives, the group who actually shows up to vote THE MOST, and who also do tend to vote Dem are to blame then I’m glad the DNC propaganda is working for you I guess.
But like, literal studies have shown progressives show up more %wise to vote than any other group. And also you can look at vote numbers and see left 3rd parties are like 1/3rd the votes of right 3rd parties, showing most progressives do still vote dem. A lot who do not are in places like California where Dems gonna win anyways, or Florida where Dems gonna lose anyways since they literally gave up on Florida since the last Governor election.
Too lazy to find the studies again because I’m busy. You can google it if you don’t believe me I don’t care.
Again, people not showing up to vote is the DNC’s fault for not being a party people want to vote for. If they cannot energize the vote they lose. They have not since Obama. They’ve refused to learn from that because money. They are the ones who are allowing Trump. Not progressives. Progressives control almost nothing. They have no say in the DNC. They cannot stop them from doing stupid bullshit. They’ve tried, but rather than learn and adopt progressive policy from Bernie or 3rd parties the DNC has decided to alienate them as hard as possible including fighting against them. They’ve decided they’re owed their votes anyways so they don’t need to appease them.
I guess you don’t have anything to say to that guy.
Late… date? Does the 24/7 campaign cycle mean we can never discuss how we can get the unrepresented in our country involved in the political process?
No. It means that it’s impossible to organize a viable 3rd Party before the next election cycle.
Do you have any idea what it take to get a candidate listed in all 50 states? Or how much money it would take to get a candidates name out?
Get back to me when you have an actual plan to start a3rd Party. Include the names of the candidates you’ll run for every House seat.
I don’t want to win no election. I want Americans to stop commiting war crime.
Honestly these clowns were quick to throw foreigners under the trolley in exchange for their safety. They still lost lmao
I don’t care what happen to them