Poland presidential election 2025: rightwing candidate Karol Nawrocki wins, official results show – live
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Nawrocki’s victory over Warsaw mayor Rafał Trzaskowski is a blow to Donald Tusk’s pro-EU Polish government

Nawrocki, aka the “nationalist” candidate, just won the election in Poland with a very narrow margin.

Nawrocki is formally independent, but is aligned with the PiS party of current president Duda, who were responsible for undermining Polish democracy by among other things stacking the courts with illegitimate judges. As the president has the power to block all judidcal appointments, it does not look like Poland will have their democracy back for the next five years: Duda has simply blocked all judicial appointments rendering the Polish state a lame duck, and in all likelihood Nawrocki will keep up the same obstructionist strategy.

Then again, that’s what they voted for.

    • Vinny_93@lemmy.world
      461·
      21 days ago

      The Netherlands also elected a right wing populist gouvernement somehow. They’ve been at it for a while but haven’t really done anything they have been yelling about because they figured out it’s not all as simple as it seems.

      The common denominator seems to be someone yelling that immigrants are bad. I think most people in the Netherlands voted for the populists because of that and they see past the incompetence and stuff that borders on fascism. They just want their streets to be filled with white people eating potatoes and speaking Dutch.

      I’m not saying migration isn’t an issue at all, because it is, I’m just saying it might not be a great idea to elect a party based on this point without looking at the rest of their opinions.

      • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
        10·
        21 days ago

        The common denominator seems to be someone yelling that immigrants are bad.

        Absolutely. Immigrants are shaping up to be this century’s Jews.

        I’m not saying migration isn’t an issue at all, because it is,

        Really, it pretty much isn’t. Immigrants simply highlight issues that already exist, like lack of opportunity, housing shortages and weak social security while ruffling bigots’ feathers.

      • coyootje@lemmy.world
        6·
        21 days ago

        The main reason why the more populist government won this time around over the VVD (the more centrist conservative party) is down to the failures of the VVD in the years before, causing this mess we’re currently in, and the fact that the populist candidate slightly softened his rethoric about immigration. Don’t get me wrong, he still hates immigrants but he went from wanting to ban Islam and burn Koreans to just wanting to send immigrants back to their own country. On top of that, he also seemingly steered more into being there for the “normal” (read: white) Dutch person.

        As for them not getting anything done: this was more or less expected. It’s part of the right wing playbook but it’s also just such a mess here politically with all the different factions with different goals that cancel each other out that it is very difficult to achieve anything.

        Want more houses? Farmers have to give in, leading to massive protests and tractors on the highways. Also, with the farmers party in the government this could cause them to have to resign. Want more farmers? This isn’t allowed due to Dutch (and EU) nature laws and regulations (thank God we have those). Want to give money to lower class people? Oh wait, they’re right wing… They might promise that to win votes but that will never happen.

        At the moment the best we can hope for is that the populist leader comes through on his threats of pulling out of the government if he doesn’t get his (crazy) way soon and that the people here have learned their lesson that voting right doesn’t achieve anything. I’m sure VVD will still get a lot of votes but I at least hope that we can get a mixed government again, it’s been a long time since that happened…

    • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
      27·
      21 days ago

      I mean Brexit was voted on back in 2016, and despite vocal opposition online, not much was actually done to try and stop it.

      • JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world
        5·
        21 days ago

        You’re right. That sounds pretty much like the Dem voter base today. Complacency in a perceived landslide victory tends to lead people to sit at home.

    • Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works
      13·
      21 days ago

      If the entire population of Poland (36.69 (nice) million, 2023) was completely idiotic, that would only be slightly more than 10% of the US population (340.1 million, 2024). I think we still hold the largest concentration of idiot.

      • harcEnglish
        7·
        21 days ago

        Won by less than 2%, it was 50.89% to 49.11%, with 70% voting. But yeah, we’re not the brightest Europe has to offer.

  • harcEnglish
    391·
    21 days ago

    Polleming here, some context;

    • this guy a doctor of history, until recently head of IPN, state historical institute dealing with historical crimes of the Nazi and Soviet regimes + other genocides (pol-ukr)
    • in early 20 took over a flat from an old alcoholic who was then in prison (prob. “encouraged” by other prisoners)
    • signed a deal he will support the guy in exchange for the flat till the end of life, the guy is now in a state welfare facility, fully on state support
    • flat itself was siphoned of the housing system
    • used to work as bouncer in a gang bar
    • also a football casual who took part of one of the most famous 70v70 football casuals fight, along key gangsters
    • delivered sexworkers to a hotel where he worked as security
    • went to beg for support of a far right pro-russian candidate, got humiliated publicly, signed off vetoing Ukraine in NATO (key Polish starategic objective for security against openly threathened Russian invasion)
    • wins 50.89% to 49.11% against a bland liberal, president of Warsaw
    • we live in a society.
  • misk@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    82·
    21 days ago

    That’s what happens when the government works only for the wealthy. KO is more guilty of losing than PiS is guilty of winning. With how they’ve been doing I’m thinking they might have lost on purpose, otherwise their excuses so far would stop working.

    Nothing changed compared to yesterday, no need to panic.

  • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
    4·
    20 days ago

    Imagine being the start of an enormous war because of a guy like this and then not learning anything from it.

  • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
    62·
    20 days ago

    They probably didn’t vote for it. There appeared to be a Russian Tail yesterday. The conservatives are sharing tactics worldwide and have figured out how to steal elections, but make it look “close.” They stole the US election in 2024. They tried to do it in 2020, they just didn’t quite manage it.

    https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/

    https://youtu.be/UgIay64Obcs

    https://youtu.be/t-yr-Mgkhm0

    https://electiontruthalliance.org/eta

    First and last links are the data. The middle links are for us stupid people that need to be told how to read the data in the last link.