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- He is a traitor
- This has been planned for a while
- Many Democrats are in on it
- We cannot vote our way out of this. They have to be arrested/removed.
TRUMP also made epstein files his campaign promise, some of his supporters arnt letting this go, even to the point the various platforms have to either astroturf or ban the supporters(eg, r/conservative, they completely banned the topic)
Why do people keep calling DC a state ?
Release the Trump/Epstein files
At this point I’m sure there’s video of Epstein topping Chump.
Uhm. Military following illegal and obviously traitorous orders is way bigger a problem, because whoever gave this order is not going to outlive the military and how they function
Sounds pretty american to me.
Him and his cronies are scared
Doesn’t it bother anyone else how ineffective the left are at making this a big deal?
Biden eats a hamburger weirdly and everybody and their grandmother are screaming how it’s proof he’s senile and incompetent.
Trump invaded two cities and the left use the same 27 year old slogans and insults and barely make any content.
Trump also drinks water weird. I wish they nailed him for this one. Oh yeah and that they elected a child rapist.
Right you’re totally right and proving my point. They elected a child rapist who eats weird and still the left lost and everybody knows that Biden is senile.
It’s like we’re all cooks on a baking show and every time our cake comes out deflated and looking like shit but nobody is trying to figure out why. Instead we’re calling the chefs with nice cakes a bunch of Nazis. It does nothing to get us to achieving a proper competitive product and there is no reflecting within the team about why the product fucking sucks
It’s because the left has allowed itself to be absorbed by establishment liberals, who have way too little stock with the people for their words to move anyone. This is the inevitable consequence of progressives regarding liberals as allies rather than slightly more tasteful (and more insidious) enemies.
You sure?
If I was a right wing think tank my first move would be to get the left to identify as very strict categories and then create a bunch of infighting as if they’re little island before I crush them.
The left fails because they don’t act strategically
You sure?
Yes? The Bernie-Trump pipeline is a thing for a reason; when people don’t find solutions on the left they look for them on the right.
The left fails because they don’t act strategically
What strategy could possibly be involved in talking about a thing? What’s happening is plain and simple: The left is talking about the files, about the fascism, about everything, but the right isn’t listening and the center is only listening to the superficial stuff. This isn’t a problem that can be fixed by acting more strategically, only by adopting a better strategy.
The Bernie - Trump pipeline is not real. People turned to the right or center because the left lost the plot a long time ago. It’s so ineffective and most people can see the collapse of it. It’s in the same state the right was before they took a hard right to the fringe. It will get worse and worse each year.
It’s also in large part the media. They focused on that shit
Right and we are social media. The left are supposedly a much bigger population. Just by city alone. Did you see how many people drive across the country to stand in streets?
So what is stopping is from surpassing the media and online presence to overwhelm it with a message like they do when Biden blinks weird?
What the fuck are they doing that we can’t figure out.
Why does it seem like nobody else is pissed off at the left for not being able to do what they do?
Is the strategy at this point to wait until the public gets tired of watching the left get their shit kicked in by bullies?
I’ve opened Lemmy today to see if anyone is posting Marc Maron because I fucking know they’re not. I’m here to verify why we can’t engage the public. We’re lazy. All these people posting how they’ll punch a Nazi. But there’s a lot of other places they can intervene before then. But so many on the left are just talk like that while the right are actually about action. It’s maddening.
What the fuck are they doing that we can’t figure out.
Easy to influence the news if you own them.
Yea since journalists are notoriously right wing and everyone listens to traditional news.
I just am so tired of the ideas when it makes no sense in a modern digital age. They might have funding and marketing but supposedly we have numbers. At one point we had a large presence online. We fucking handed it over while whispering ‘I’ll punch a Nazi if I need to’ but we gave Nazis access to every corner of social media.
There’s no anger on the left directed at the left for failing. There’s no anger after one of the biggest fucking failures it has ever seen. Everyone assumes they did good and the reason the right is winning is because X,Y,Z. The left have lost everything because of inherent traits among the left. Without ownership and awareness, there’s so much more to lose.
Just look at Washington. What do you think would happen if Biden did the same in Texas?
Yea since journalists are notoriously right wing and everyone listens to traditional news.
Here’s the weird thing. Journalist’s tend to lean left, but the people that sit in front of a camera and spout “news” for almost every major media organization? They don’t lean left, they lean money and/or influence. If they lean too left they end up unemployed, or at least drop several rungs. People like Medhi Hasan that won’t tow the line lose their shows.
What’s left is constant criticism of every Democrat that farts in a restroom and uncertainty about whether or not full blown authoritarianism and fascism is really a big deal. Everything seems fine from their desks.
Traditional media hasn’t been relevant in a while. Everybody gets their news from social media. A space that the left abandoned and refuses to use.
So when I look around at all the leftist angry about the Republicans winning I get angry. I get angry at all these leftist so loud about punching a Nazi but can’t bother to do some basic maintenance. As if they’re going to muster up the energy to punch anything when they didn’t have the energy to do the most basic form of engagement from the comfort of their own bedroom
Traditional media hasn’t been relevant in a while. Everybody gets their news from social media.
Agree to disagree. I think It’s generational. Every boomer I know, even the liberals, absolutely watches the news on their TV. The more right wing people usually listen to talk radio. Traditional media is less relevant among the younger generations but the younger generations still lean left.
they didn’t have the energy to do the most basic form of engagement from the comfort of their own bedroom
Wait wait wait. Are you saying that average people dropped the ball on using social media to spread leftist values?
- Nontraditional media is what is affecting so many minds and what is being shared on social media. Joe Rogan, OANN, Daily Wire, and all that garbage. Just another form of the same bullshit. Money-grubbing assholes chasing ratings/views willing to use whatever is most effective… and often funded by rich conservatives who only fund right leaning influencers.
- Reddit and Lemmy and all this shit is social media - it’s just not where most of the right wingers are. Are you telling me the left is underrepresented on these forums? It’s pretty clear that we’re here in number.
- Social media is so effective at radicalizing people because it’s an echo chamber. Are you suggesting the left should embrace the fucking right wing rabbit hole so that we can better reach radicalized people on social media? We don’t control the algorithm, the new tech oligarchy that controls social media does that.
I’m not active outside this place and you couldn’t get me to touch Facebook. Their algorithms, representing their interests, are what fucked social media. I deleted my account a while ago because Meta isn’t getting my engagement or my ad revenue.
It sounds like you want us to fund fascist enablers and engage right wing rabbit holes in order to reach a minority of younger right wingers that have been sectioned off into their own echo chambers. Yeah, not fucking happening. That’s some energy vampire shit and abso-fucking-lutely not “the most basic form of engagement”.
Can you blame us? We haven’t spent our whole lives screaming about weird shit so of course the right is better at it.
But you have. It’s just been less effective. And that needs serious reflection as to why.
Normalize calling them the Trump/Epstein Files.
Normalize calling him “treasonous child fucker Trump”
I’d go with child rapist
This is also extremely acceptable.
trumpstein will do
Americans about to get a taste of what they’ve bern exporting for decades. Hope y’all are ready.
I didn’t export shit. I’ve been against our military industrial complex since I’ve known of its existence. You act like all of us are somehow in on this crap…
Yep. Ignorance is universal. I sure as hell actively voted against against this.
We will prevail
Thw vast majority of Americans have done essentially nothing to stop the tyranny of their government abroad, the most recent examples of which being the genocide in Gaza and the bombing of Yemen. Maybe you’re in the minority that did something, but if not then living in California and voting blue is not enough to be innocent of the actions of the war machine.
You have 0 idea what’s happening.
Do you know how long it takes and how hard it is to organize more people in just california than many entire countries have?
Protests, logistics, printing, hiring services., training, educating.
Take your pick and feel free to jump in and help. Or sit there and pretend you have any other thought than about laughing at others misfortune.
You have 0 idea what’s happening.
I do, it’s nothing. Nothing is happening. And worse, I’ve seen what happened when some people tried to do something (i.e. Uncommitted). That’s the moment when I lost all faith in Americans.
Take your pick and feel free to jump in and help
Nah, I’m watching here from the other side of the world.
Or sit there and pretend you have any other thought than about laughing at others misfortune.
I’d be lying to say that I’m not feeling a good deal of schadenfreude, but mostly I’m looking forward to the American Empire killing itself after its people failed—in fact actively refused—to reign it in for decades.
I don’t give a shit what you’re faith is in
Facts are youre a bigot who is painting the country with a wide brush, when you should be using a pencil.
People who do that are lazy and simply want others to do everything
So you can stay out of the way.
Respond or not, feed you’re insecure need to downvote and get last word.
Here… I upvoted you. Know why? Cause fake internet points mean as much as you’re opinion
Facts are youre a bigot who is painting the country with a wide brush, when you should be using a pencil.
I’m not; I do sympathize with the people who actually tried. Problem is there’s not a whole lot of them.
Respond or not, feed you’re insecure need to downvote and get last word.
Done.
Know why? Cause fake internet points mean as much as you’re opinion
Thanks :). Also you wanted to say “your,” not “you’re”.
Sorry, you don’t really get to live here and not be a part of it.
Right…bcz i signed the agreements, and worked with the CIA, FBI, etc to instigate this stuff… oh wait, no…, no, turns out I didn’t do any of that. And it might be a shocker to you, but im just some dude who happens to have been born to American parents.
If it were up to me, I would tear down our entire military industrial complex. But, guess what, it isn’t. And I’d probably get assassinated for trying.
It’s almost like the US is an extremely large and diverse place, and that even different states have different ideas.
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Yeah, actually, I don’t blame the population of Israel for what their government is doing, the same way I don’t blame Russian citizens for what their government is doing in Ukraine, bcz im not a fucking dumbass who thinks those two things are the same.
So you want every single one American who looked around and said “this is fucked, we should never be doing anything like this” to suffer. For something they never even agreed with. Just like so many people around you
Tell me: what fucking good end does this serve, huh?
Is it such a hard fucking concept that governments do things against the will of the people? I’m in California, and the majority of us here are completely against what is happening and the man baby in charge, thus why the Fed is specifically targeting California, just because he can and to prove he can. I’d happily take to the streets with a rifle, but I’m not about to be a martyr since it would take more than an individual or even a small group.
At least your mom says you cool, because you are a fucking tool.
A majority of people voted for Trump, and the elections were not rigged. Maybe you’re not among them, but the fact that you live in the same country as them means that you share the responsibility.
If you don’t want to share it, organize and fight back. There’s still time left before the US becomes a police state comparable to Russia or China.
A majority of people who voted*, voted for Trump (even this is not fully solid fact).
This is not true.
- 75,019,230 (48.34% of the electorate) voted Harris
- 77,303,568 (49.81% of the electorate) voted Trump
- 2,878,359 (1.85% of the electorate) voted for a third party candidate
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/elections/2024
A plurality of the electorate voted for this administration, not a majority.
In the 2024 presidential election, 73.6% (or 174 million people) of the citizen voting-age population was registered to vote and 65.3% (or 154 million people) voted according to new voting and registration tables released today by the U.S. Census Bureau.
So of the 238 million voting age citizens, 77 million (32% of the voting age citizens) voted for this administration
Since that many didn’t vote for the orange mussolini the next best thing should be trying to get Democrat popular states break from the union California might have the best chance for independence that’s your only best option otherwise you won’t survive if not dead then in prison for the coming next 5 years.
Lol. “I organized and fought back, so now what has already happened is magically not my responsibility anymore”? What kind of magical thinking is this?
Least y’all could have done was vote against the fascist, but that would have meant voting for the black woman. So you guys just couldn’t do it. Fuck Americans, you guys need to fix your shit and stay out of global politics, get in the back of the line cause nobody wants to hear it. All you morons aew to blame for this
Shop whining on lemmy, most lemmy voters voted Harris. You’re preaching to the choir
75 million of us did.
Sorry, your mom is wrong.
I take pride in being disliked by Americans
Weird flex. I’m not an American and I don’t like you.
Anything to convince yourself you’re right
Man you really are a bigot, aren’t ya? Yelling at people who have nothing your misery?
Nice look
Im an indigenous brown person whose country was bombed by Americans and who is sick of hearing your bullshit. Calling every brown person who complains about your war crimes a bigot is quite a tactic, you gonna call me a wetback too now? Or revert to your old Indian slurs? White leftist Americans calling indigenous people bigots has to be a textbook example of what the fuck happened with the American left, you’re all toxic just like the right, two sides to a garbage coin
All Americans are garbage, even the left. You guys have no idea what being left is, even your leftists are insane
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You’re more like trump than you think. I’m done with you.
If america falls completely, europe has two decades tops.
European countries might find ways to be less dependent on the US, economically and politically. The fall of the US will have repercussions, but the rest of the world is already preparing for it. I don’t think Europe will suffer that much… China will be all to happy to replace the US as a commercial partner.
Replacing usa with china is just a recipe for the exact same shit.
Europe has begun to accept it cannot rely on the USA anymore. Also China is stepping in fast now the tariffs are being applied.
Before… What exactly?
They fall to fascism too. Our cancer has metastasized and fascist rhetoric has been gaining traction around the globe.
In that case I’d say Europe, or at least EU Europe, is doomed no matter what happens to America. It’s not like America overthrowing their fascists (extremely unlikely) will do much to convince Poles or Germans that immigrants are actually cool.
Let’s be perfectly clear: This is what it means to “act like the President of the United States”.
Well normally Presidents of the United States invade other countries, it’s the self-invasion that’s unusual here
Presidents of the United States also have a pretty long history of harassing and arresting people for being poor, black or leftist, so really the only strange part is the scale and that it’s coming for mainstream white America.
As a non-American what two cities? I knew of Los Angeles but what’s the other one. It doesn’t come up in our news.
the other one is DC, he is desperately trying to distract the press from the files, so he ordered the military to remove HOMELESS people from dc, trying to ragebait the press as a distraction.
He’s deploying the National Guard to our capital, Washington DC. He’s also taking federal control over the DC police. All because Big Balls said he was assaulted by 10 15-year-olds in an attempted carjacking. Whether or not it happened, or happened like that, I have no idea.
Explain how the hell exactly 10 folks are going to commit a car jacking…they stealing a goddamn clown car? At best there’s 7 seats, because they are going to wait 30 seconds for all of the carjackers to get inside, and let the other 3 figure out how to escape.
-this is the dumbest timeline
He’s also floated nationalizing NYC if Mamdani wins the mayoral race this fall.
He’s also floating the idea of deploying them to cities with black Democrat mayors.
Act like the president of the United States
It’s like these people have never heard of Shays’s rebellion or the whisky rebellion. This is exactly what American presidents do and it goes further than Shays’s rebellion. Liberals need to learn nationalist myths will not save us.
That YT link… wow.
Yeah, I recently discovered Tad Stoermer. Everything he posts is great!
That’s all well and good, but it’ll take more than memes to finally get rid of this despot, US folks—why isn’t there any serious resistance?
We are at the end of half a century of destroying the working class and militarizing our police.
With no social safety net, healthcare tied to employment, and at-will employment, there’s no working people able to afford a sustained non violent protest.
Capitalist controlled media has eroded any sense of class consciousness amongst the common people, who are more inclined to be angry about the “theft” of a billionaires pile of gold through taxation, than the everyday theft of the value their labor produces.
There have been many one day protests, large ones, but society has been reshaped to make sustained protests virtually impossible. A captured media landscape and election system insulate politicians from consequences. Together these depress the incentive for non violent protest.
Violent insurrection would be met with a ton of state violence.
People, pretty reasonably, aren’t excited to be beaten, sent off to CECOT, or killed.
And of course, I’ll note the many logistic issues. America is fucking huge, most Americans don’t have $500 to cover an emergency, no one has an extra $500+ to fly across country for a do nothing protest in DC. Protest coverage is met with derision by centrist as “too disruptive” while the right wing n enjoys the snippets of our police state bashing protesters with state sanctioned violence.
So a lot of people do the calculus, spend time, money, and energy to go out into the street to be beaten and maybe disappeared so that nothing will change, and they sit it out.
Then I fear that the US will soon become a dictatorship in all but name. I don’t see how this can be prevented. One thing is certain, however: in a repressive autocracy, there will be many more, much more tangible reasons to put up with everything the rulers do.
I share this fear. I had hoped at some point the people would have had enough.
I think at first I considered it some great failing in my fellow countrymen. While that may play some part, I’ve found it more instructive to understand this moment as a result of a very intentional project.
It’s the kind of project that wealth allows you to pursue. Institutions like the heritage foundation and fix news cost money, but the return on that investment can’t be beat. It took a couple decades to bend the world to their will but the results are astounding.
You have the exploited championing their own exploitation. Extolling the virtues of those that take from them. They protect the very systems that harm them, and at this point are so indoctrinated that they can not fathom any other way of arranging things.
At every step down this road there was someone whose duty was to stop it but found it more profitable to stand aside. And now I fear we are too late to stop it
It will not be something we can fix in our lifetime.
All we can do is build foundations for our descendants to hopefully build into a legitimate resistance effort.
Thank you Captain Obvious.
