NASA, with the tampons.
We don’t serve people who awaken trolls here
Brutal
Oh we got that in Finland btw
(it was a marketing campaign, not a default size)
Did they cut down to 100 because the 1000 pack from before wasn’t selling?
At least one guy bought it
I think that’s just a rival company supposedly one-upping them, but that’s not a “real” pack, it’s just a pallet of 24-packs wrapped in a sign saying “1000-pack”.
Cheers though I wasn’t aware of this before
If he’s my friend, I’d tell him to pick up the beer on the way over. Let him deal with it.
Yeah this is the actual solution. With that said, I would be fucking stoked if I showed up to a friends house and they showered me with 100 beers.
You start with 100 bottles of beer on the wall…
What happens if one were to fall…
Well then someones got some cleaning to do.
if he likes shit beer, get a 12 pack, good beer, 6 pack
I remember watching the X-files sometimes in the noughties and Mulder came up with a deduction; “it must’ve been two men…nobody drinks two six-packs alone” and I just cracked up.
12-pack was like a medium for the night, 24 a heavier. Plus bars usually. (Finn here.)
12 pack, sure… but 2 six-packs is different, ain’t it?
Perhaps the store was out of 12-packs.
Also at that time, in like early 90’s (in the tv show), I don’t think 12-pack was that common
No. We’ve had 6 packs, 12 packs, and cases since at least the 70s.
Source: I bought pretty much every packaging that Old Style was sold in during late 70s and early 80s.
Non-existent=/=common
12 packs were pretty much the default packaging.
Also, alcoholics are real. My dad used to go through a 24 a day just to maintain. The liquor on top of that was to actually feel intoxicated.
Yeah tbh, most people didn’t finish their beers, so only drank like 80% of a can they were everywhere, and usually people bum one or two.
And unless we were at some festival, people wouldn’t have time to destroy 24 + bar drinks.
But cruise ships? Three days of innumerable drinks of all sorts.
I kinda miss that though. The adventure and friends, not drinking that much.
Five Hundred Cigarettes
And a lighter.
We must have more!
27? 30. 37? 2.
37! my girlfriend sucked 37 dicks!
Instructions unclear, your girlfriend now has (37! - 37) dicks remaining to suck.
yknow i told this joke on reddit like 10 years ago and i got like 20 comments related to math
Amazing, did you beat her? Did you win?
Only if I can include other various phallic shaped objects in the contest.
In a row?!
I just don’t feel like a real man if I don’t have my 125 daily lagers. I would surmise astronauts are the same. Maybe that’s why nothing gets done up there,… they’re being rationed !
You’d think that but due to reduced gravity in LOE it takes more beer to feel like a man. You can calculate the number of beers required by taking the number of beers at sea level times the distance from sea level in kilometers.
Good chuckle
NASA once asked astronaut Sally Ride if 100 tampons would be enough for her week-long mission in space, but she later clarified that this number was excessive. While the engineers were concerned about potential needs, Ride humorously noted that a much smaller amount would suffice.
Tbh, this is not quite as dumb as it sounds. Tampons weigh nothing and if there’s no way to resupply, it’s not quite as dumb to take more than you need. What if, for example, there’s a series defect on these things and a large portion of them are defective?
In fact, when they asked her said it’s excessive, to which they told her they wanted to be on the safe side, so she said to cut it in half and bring 50pcs (which is still excessive for most periods, but on the safe side).
In fact, in the same mission they also brought jelly beans, which were entirely irrelevant to the mission, because Reagan insisted on his favourite snack to go to orbit. They were likely heavier than 100 tampons and also much less necessary up there.
Tampons weigh nothing
When you’re dealing with the tyranny of rocketry, every gram matters.
That said, I agree with your point. The mass and volume was well within acceptable mission parameters.
I get the impression they were also preparing for a potential freak discovery where it turns out zero G has an extreme effect on the menstrual cycle, and they suddenly need a lot of them.
For the nose bleeds occuring from 0G ;)
If you have a sample size of 0 and a backup plan of “crash and burn”, it does make sense to be extra careful with the preparation.
I prefer my backup plans to include “halt and catch fire”
“halt” might be difficult in orbit.
This implies that catching fire is easy while in orbit with minimal, if any, atmosphere.
Interesting take.
It’s not that hard. You just have to lose a little bit of speed, enough for re-entry, and there’s your fire.
How long could the shuttle stay up there if it was deemed unsafe to return?
They might have been preparing to orbit for long enough to launch a rescue mission.
100 is probably still to many. I’m suprized they didn’t just buy a box of them, or ask the manufacturers, who surely have the most data on average tampon consumption.
Why ask the manufacturer about the average consumption when you can ask the person in question about the real consumption?
Tbh, the story was reported by Ride on a talk show for laughs. It’s not exactly a well-documented incidence.
Likely, the package they ordered had 100pcs in them (because it’s meant for commercial clients) and they asked her something like “We got 100 here, how many do you need?”
It’s of course fun to insinuate that NASA engineers have never been close to women and thus have no idea how tampons work, but it’s more likely that this was just played up for laughs at a talk show.
No
Reagan probably got Nancy to shove them up his ass while performing her famous BJs.
Presidential Manpon
On NASA defence is not the first time that due problems with vehicles an astronaut have to stay up there for much much much longer than their planed stance.
At the end I think the astronaut said that 50 would be enough. So the NASA estimate wasn’t really that far off. As it’s totally normal for a woman to use half or double the tampons than other woman during period.
But it is a funny story indeed.
Still a pretty dumb approach by the NASA guys. Didn’t it occur to them to ask a woman - any woman - before coming up with the initial estimate? Like “hey Sally, how many tampons do you normally need during your period? OK we’ll triple that for a safety margin.” There. Done.
They did ask her. Sure, they could have asked how many instead, but it probably came in a 100 count well within any significant mass margins, so they just asked if 100 would be enough.
it probably came in a 100 count
A 100-count box seems like an absurdly large unit size. Are you doing the very thing that the anecdote is intended to highlight?
Procurement for business/government/military (including and especially NASA), is very different than what you would see on a shelf at your local drug store.
The drug store can’t buy a single box of tampons. They have to get an entire case of boxes of tampons. If each box is say, 20 tampons, and there’s more than 5 of those per case, then they’re buying at least 100 tampons so they can get a single box of them.
There’s a lot of alternatives they could have looked into, like neighboring government institutions which may already stock them, asking them to supply a smaller quantity than they would have needed to order, or ordering outside of their typical channels and sending the intern down the road to buy a box from the nearest pharmacy… Those things wouldn’t really get accounted for in their budgeting though… So they would prefer to order through their normal distribution.
It’s a funny comment to make to Ride, “is 100 enough?” And I’m sure everyone had a good chuckle.
Regardless they probably didn’t see another good option for ordering other than to just buy a case of them and figure out the rest later.
Don’t agencies have some kind of de minimis threshold for just running out to the store and buying basic stuff? I thought that’s why the DOGE freeze of government credit cards a few months ago was causing labs to cancel experiments and employees paying out of pocket to feed horses and working dogs.
So the military does have a strict procurement process for rocket fuel, but they generally refuel their civilian vehicles (vans and such) with a government credit card at normal gas stations.
At least that’s how I understand it.
This is for stuff going on a literal space ship. I’m sure procurement was super strict on there.
Imagine getting some defective stuff (or even worse, stuff contaminated with bacteria or something like that).
I don’t think they’d just let some intern tun over to the local walmart and grab supplies from there for supplies for the space shuttle.
I suspect the strictness isn’t with the procurement process where a contracting officer defines very specific criteria in compliance with acquisition regulations and submits the process to competitive bids. The strictness is in the mission parameters where NASA’s ownership of the thing has already been established, but the NASA employees in a strict hierarchical decisionmaking process need to justify why a thing that NASA already owns should be included in the packing list on a mission.
It depends. What area is the vehicle operating in, what resources are available in the area, both from internal department, intra department, and external/public…
There’s a lot of factors to consider.
I won’t pretend to know what factors got them to that point, but bluntly, it doesn’t really matter. Some set of circumstances created the conditions where such a question needed to be asked.
They definitely come in 100 counts. This part isn’t speculation. I have no Idea what NASA procurement looks like though, and I don’t have anyone to ask.
It’s either super complicated and expensive tampons with certification or some employee being send to the nearest supermarket
100/hour? That might be enough, but we really want wider safety margins, don’t you think?
One of my favorite things about Lemmy ~ Star Trek references can occur anywhere, at any given moment.
I have a personal metric system for rating social networking platforms based on the percentage of Trekkies/Trekkers.
But have you searched for “communities containing tenforward” yet? :)
…I contribute content to them whilst drinking saurian brandy!
I didn’t know this was a thing. tyvm.
You are very welcome!
A round of drinks @ tenforward in celebration for our new friend!!
One of us! One of us!
Gooba Gabba, One of us!!
I agree, but after spending some time here, it’s amazing how sensitive the people are about their fandoms on these more niche communities. Like guys, come on… it’s just entertainment, you’re allowed to have opinions, not everything should make you feel so stressed.
At least in larger sites like reddit people can have lighthearted spats and debates about silly things like media. Some of the folks here really need some sunlight.
I just wish I saw more Star Wars references but not that bootleg Disney crap, I like my star wars like I like my bands in the EU.
As a purist, we can agree that the only real series was TNG, this was the cornerstone, built on the hallowed but kind of silly ground made by the original series, but followed by DS9 when we grew up a little, and we can kinda accept Voyager was a thing that happened somewhere in the distance but we don’t get too close.
There was nothing else. The franchise ended and we all moved on, happy for the good run. “ALL GOOD THINGS…”
A purist would know that it’s not Star Trek if Kirk, Spock, and McCoy are not present. We don’t need French men with English accents or William T. Ripoff!
this kind of negativity doesn’t help Star Wars, or any fandom.
Yeah I’ve spoken to enough young people who watched the prequels first that I no longer begrudge them their nostalgia.
I just don’t share it, and that’s ok. I’d rather define myself by what I enjoy than what I turn my nose up at.
Speaking of, have you heard the good word of Andor?? It’s the best thing to happen to Star Wars since greebles!!!
lol i HAVE heard the Good News! XD
life is just a lot more fun when you enjoy stuff rather than hate stuff.
the OT, i love it, i grew up on it, it has some really naff bits in it. XD this just IS Star Wars. the cornball stuff was baked in from the beginning.
Are you new on the internet?
no, but i am sick of it. we don’t have to be this way.
Focus that energy on areas that are making people actually contentious and hateful towards each other like rampant capitalistic greed, subversion of democracy and internet grifters who manufacture hate for engagement. Talking shit about the shows we like and don’t like is fun.
People have been debating their standards for media, entertainment and franchises for longer than we have written history. Literally, look up Roman graffiti. It’s fine, it’s fun even. If you’re seeing malice and stress in these kinds of debates, you need to back away from it entirely for a bit. Just don’t get involved, stay healthy.
Critique of media is so fun! It’s the clannish obsession with fighting over the objectively “true” instance of a piece of media that’s so tiring.
Though I agree it’s small potatoes, and usually just a proxy for generational or class fielty divisions.
part of that is calling out negative behaviours. critique is one thing. but there are too many shitbirds today who think it’s somehow cool and erudite to yuck other people’s yums.
as you said, a lot of the blame for encouraging and normalizing that behaviour goes to grifters, social media, capitalism. but every person gets to make a choice on what kind of person they want to be today and what energy they want to put out.
more ppl need to start choosing the good.
I’m not sure whether that’s a hot take, and I know there are different levels of tolerance, but I think you might have a problem if you drink 20 beers in 2-3 days (assuming 4-6% alcohol). Or at least you will probably have, starting day 2 :D
Assuming 12oz beers at 5% ABV, that you’re a man at the global average weight of 180lbs, and have a healthy liver, if you paced yourself to 1 beer every 1.5 hours over the course of your 16 waking hours per day, your BAC would never exceed 0.02, you’d have 5-10 minutes between beers with a BAC of 0, and you’d drink about 12 beers in a day.
Most people would not be noticeably intoxicated by this and probably wouldn’t experience any kind of hangover. They might wind up a bit dehydrated if that’s the only thing they drink. It’s also definitely not advisable to do that over any extended period of time.
That explains why my perception is off, I weigh more like 140 :D
I mean, if you’re doing a full weekend of activities with friends those beers could be spaced out far enough that you’re never more than slightly buzzed (small cans, <5%ABV). But yeah, if it’s a regular thing, it’s not a great look.
Yeah if you crack open the first cold one at noon when it gets hot while you’re helping with some outdoors work and finish your last one at 3 AM talking shit with your friends, you probably never get drunk with those amounts. If you drink it all over 4 hours per evening, different story.
Yeah at the slow paces outside you’re more likely to get dehydrated than drunk.
Idk, 10 liters of beer a day is kinda hydro tho
There is a big difference if it’s a periodic activity or a one time party thing. If it’s a one time one, it’s not a big deal, apart from heavy hangover afterwards.
You can get permament drunk guy syndrome/brain damage (people who look drunk even when sober) from consuming too much in a short period (chugging like crazy), so that one party can potentially (EDIT: Pay attention to this word and stop blowing things out of proportion lemmy! Potential does not mean always, it means there is a chance involved) fuck you up more than periodical drinking. I think it was called alcoholic cerebellar degeneration. This is why I refuse to touch strong drinks like vodka and whenever I drink beer, I take a sip once per minute or two, not chug the can in 5 minutes, and never drink again in the next few days.
Consume your drugs responsibly, people.
Do you realize how much “too much” is in your scenario?
Like alcohol poisoning dead level. Can’t walk. Can’t stay awake. Can’t breathe. Can’t do anything.
And I’ve seen people like that in parties. Several times in my life, it resulted with ER visit. Said people are younger than me and already look drunk even when sober, while others who enjoy the occosional beer after work are fine their entire lives.
Did not realize how much lemmy defends alcohol, and I’m from East Europe where I’ve seen more than you’ll ever read online.
This isn’t about “defending” anything. Alcohol is a dangerous substance. And most people here know that.
That said your level of fear mongering is extreme to say the least. You sound like someone telling everyone not to go within 1km of an ankle deep pond because they’ll drown.
While possible in both cases to get permanent brain damage or drown. It is extremely unlikely on a winning a large lotto level.
Almost all people will pass out or start throwing up, long before they get near that level. Especially if they are not already an alcoholic with huge tolerance.
Source: 20 year hard core binge drinking alcoholic (20-30 drinks a day or more). That has been in the hospital 6 times for withdraw myself. And in rehab multiple times with large groups of other extreme alcoholics…
Edit: I strongly suspect most (if not all) those you thought had that condition were actually under the influence. Daily drinking alcoholics are extremely good at both hiding it ( oh I have to go to the bathroom) and lying about. They will tell you straight to your face they haven’t had a drink in weeks after you just caught them drinking a beer.
Alcoholic cerebellar degeneration is caused by chronic consumption.
If you aren’t alcoholic already, and unless you have some very specific condition, the body will start getting rid of alcohol way quicker than you will be consuming it, through any means necessary.
Drinking a lot is still dangerous, but mostly due to drunken behaviour.
You’re indeed right that drugs should be consumed responsibly, and alcohol is poison, but it’s also not that dangerous, unless it’s an addiction.the body will start getting rid of alcohol way quicker than you will be consuming it, through any means necessary.
This shit is getting upvoted while I’m getting downvoted? Tell this to any medical professional and they will look at you the same way I look at flat earthers. Alcohol metabolism is capped, while your ability to consume it isn’t nearly as capped as your body’s ability to deal with it. That “by any means necessary” makes it far worse. Those who know, will know.
Another side note - tolerance /= faster metabolism.
Chug on few vodkas per hour and report back to me about your myth (or should I say, forward your autopsy report to me?)
- You are not much fun. 2. You have never been to a good party. 3. Humanity owes its existence to alcohol. Beer and wine were the only safe drinks before water purification.
Alcohol also creates reproduction.
You also will vomit when too much alcohol is consumed. Even if you are passed out.
Ask me how much alcohol and different drugs, including rarely known ones like 25l-nbome I’ve used. Medical field and drugs have always fascinated me, hence my excessive reading on it and the potential dangers associated with them. What I said isn’t also some hard-coded event that will most definitely happen, it’s actually mostly down to genetics where some will deal with said substances better than others. Look up super-hangover gene (forgot what was it called ironically)
You all seem to be ignoring the “potentially” word from my original comment.
Potentially is doing too much heavy lifting. Everything can Potentially kill you. Excess water consumption kills you better than alcohol
Eating beef could Potentially kill you with brain parasites. Lettuce coils Potentially kill you with e coli.
You can get permament drunk guy syndrome/brain damage (people who look drunk even when sober) from consuming too much in a short period (chugging like crazy),
I have never heard of this in over half a century of drinking. Link or you made it up. Difficulty: no links to Mormon/religious nutcase made up shit.
I literally gave you the name for it, just put it on PubMed
20 beers
There’s no volume stated here… is 1 beer a pint, 0.5 liters, small bottle/can of .33 liters, 2 liter bottle.
If it’s the the small bottle it’s not that much
Where can you get beer by the 2 liter?
In Hungary and Croatia for example
Generally most consider a “beer” 355ml (12oz us) give or take.
No…?
A bottle in germany is 0.5liters, in italy it’s quite 50/50 between 0.33 and 0.66 liters.
0.33 in Nordics. Then also 0.4, common bar serving, and 0.5l can and full pint, 0.568l cans.
But “a beer” in the Nordics would generally be 0.33 from a can and 0.4l from a tap
Which is why I said give or take :)
Yup. It is indeed. I just wanted to add info.
Sometimes I seem sodas in 0.355 cans, mostly red bull. Somewhat uncommon size here imo, and I’m just wondering where theyre used. 0.355 seems like a US size, but the bottles I got from Germany were mostly 0.33l aa well. Although the cans were like 0.6l
Just wondering how prevalent and mismatched the standards are
355mL is 12 fl oz in Freedom Units™, and is the most common soda/beer size in the US. Red Bull and other such energy drinks tend to come in a smaller form factor, oddly enough.
Yeah there’s 250ml Red Bull, which is the most common one, but then theres a larger version here which goes to 355 and I think even larger, a 473ml one.
But yeah the tiny 250 is the most common
12 oz “US”
If it’s like a once a year event, is it really that bad? It’s what I do for summer solstice. I don’t easily get drunk though. Maybe 15 beers an evening to get me drunk, so 30-40 for a weekend if I were to drink only beer and nothing stronger.
Really depends on whether we’re talking 0.33l oder 0.5l.
It’s quite simple really.
Are you planning on a sensible night with a few tinnies? 4.
Are you wanting to get wankered but still make sense by lunchtime tomorrow? 14.
Are you wanting to get utterly trashed and wake up the morning after the morning after? 24.
Are you part of a suicide cult? Yeah go with 104, sure whatever.
I think it depends on the strength of the beers too. Are we drinking lagers or quads?
It does. I’m in the UK so 90% of the lagers or beers are between 4 and 5%.
If you get on the Special Brew then going into double figures will probably ruin you the following day. That said, start hooning a couple of slabs of Carling C2 and you’ll spend most of your time sobering up pissing in the bog/up the neighbours fence/in your mate’s wardrobe in the middle of a dream.
As your comment when on, it slowly shifted in accent in my mind until you were full-blown Scottish at the end. Really a delight.
She didn’t say night, she said weekend. There’s so many more variables. Maybe they’re going to stay in and watch movies until 3AM, maybe they’re going around town and not drinking a lot at home, maybe they get really drunk early on, found love, and stayed in for the rest of the weekend?
It’s almost as if we’re weaving a whole narrative from a meme post.
Either way, I hope they had a lovely time.
Depends on the ABV bigtime…
I don’t need 100 beers but I would like 100 beers
Plus like what if the mission lasts for a long time. If I plan on spending a week at a friend’s house but end up being there for much longer it won’t hurt to have more beers.
If we’re using NASA as a reference Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore were in space for 286 days instead of a planned week long mission. I definitely would rather have 100 beers in that situation over 12 beers
NASA standard is 2.5x what you expect. So we’re talking 30 beers for the weekend, just to be safe.
Does NASA account for unexpected alien visitation? Always buy extra for the surprise visitor.
If we’re using NASA as a reference Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore were in space for 286 days instead of a planned week long mission.
They did get resupplied with additional clothing and personal effects after a few weeks.
Coincidentally, there is no laundry or shower on the international space station.
Coincidentally, there is no laundry or shower on the international space station.
Adding to that: Worn clothes are “thrown out the window” and burn up in the atmosphere.
True, but just in case, would still rather have the 100 beers. Plus if I know more beers are coming I can worry less about rationing the beers
Nah. Heat is a real issue on the space station. Maybe a 6 pack for the three Xonauts that were up there, but excess sweating and excess heat production is a real concern for the ISS, or really any spacecraft, they have heatsinks that stick into a vacuum, and that is the problem. The vacuum is only ≈3K, or -270.15° C, but a vacuum is not particularly receptive to heat dispersal. Up on the ISS or any other spacecraft, you really wouldn’t want alcohol at all. It would absolutely cause you to burn too hot, causing excess heat to be introduced into the system.
Weed edibles should be a better option. Specifically NOT flower or concentrates since even a vape is going to be introducing, potentially, too much heat into the craft.
Actually, I wanna see some Xonauts do some Shrooms.
The vacuum is only ≈3K, or -270.15° C, but a vacuum is not particularly receptive to heat dispersal.
This is true for all of the black parts of the sky.
It is not true for that big yellow ball that shines on the space station half of the time. That big yellow ball is as bright and hot as a hot desert day on the surface. Daylight can raise the vacuum temp up to +250 or +300 C. And it also means that the night time temps don’t cool down all the way to 3K.
So the ISS is continuously exposed to these thermal cycles on the outside. As a heat load these should dwarf any marginal heat loads introduced by whatever recreational drugs. And the station has to have radiator capacity handle it all plus margin. Remember, too, that the ISS crew also has to do hard exercise 2 hours per day.
So what you’re saying is the cooling system would in fact be OK with my 100 beer ration
Yes, but you won’t be okay with the two hour treadmill sessions after drinking 100 beers.
Didnt the Soviets supply their guys with vodka?
The Soviets did all sorts of inadvisable things with their space program
I feel like informing women astronauts the current stock level of tampons on the ISS will come across as misogynistic, regardless of how factual and procedural the conveyance of information would be.
I feel like the women of the iss team should be the ones deciding on the policies regarding this.
please fill out the menstrual product request form prior to your launch cargo inventory confirmation
Yes you are right.
But I would also like to wake up in the morning.
In that case just drink light beer, it typically has the alcohol content of seawater.
Get a 12 pack of beer and a medium sized nice liquor bottle as backup
At 27, i would have put down 12 light beers before dinner while on a trip with no real responsibilities.
18 if there were responsibilities.
A full 30 if I thought I might be inconvenienced in those responsibilities.
And here I thought I had a problem. Thanks guys. Feeling better now.
Just grab a six-pack
