• juliebean@lemmy.zip
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    21 hours ago

    oooh, conspiracy slop, neat. 📷

    (in all seriousness though, is this post trying to suggest that russia didn’t actually invade ukraine?)

    • Dirt_Possum [she/her, undecided]@hexbear.net
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      18 hours ago

      I don’t know that it’s “suggesting” anything other than that if you believe the NATO aka US state department narrative about anything regarding the conflict, then at best you’re a credulous rube, and at worst a bootlicking neo-nazi.

    • plyth@feddit.org
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      21 hours ago

      Where do you get that from? The opposite of telling the truth is not telling only lies.

      The information about the other countries is also not entirely wrong. There is just enough false information that the majority draws enough wrong conclusions.

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        11 hours ago

        just not sure what “they” are claiming beyond that (or who “they” is meant to refer to, for that matter), but the comparison to iraq, afghanistan, vietnam, etc. made me guess the op was claiming that the commonly understood cause and justification of the war was false.

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      18 hours ago

      That is exactly what I say all the time. The US does and did many horrible things, and Russia did and does too. Neither of them are the good guys. Everyone defending invasions of countries is either a troll, brainwashed or a Nazi. Many posts here who defend various Russian invasions would also be top notch Nazi propaganda, saying the the people of other nations actually don’t have a right to be their own independent nation or that thy are inferior.

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    21 hours ago

    Ukraine is the victim in the US and Russias imperialist dick measuring contest.

    Neither the US nor Russia is telling the full story.

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    19 hours ago

    why did this get downvoted? Who’s the gaggle of idiots that downvoted this? I’m old enough to remember all the bullshit about Iraq and Afghanistan and all the wars against countries that never attacked us that Obama started too

    Anyone who thinks it’s a bad idea to try to establish peace between two nuclear armed powers is an idiot. Any bunker that you could survive in would also be your tomb, because the nuclear fallout from dozens if not hundreds of nukes being used at the same time would outlive you by over 1000 years

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    21 hours ago

    If russia US so good, why don’t you go live there? US lie about all the time to justify war of aggression, and who is aggressing who in the Ukraine-Russia war?