I wonder if this is more common among Linux users. If an application has good keyboard support, I’m ALL over that instead of using a mouse. That’s one reason web applications really annoy me, they usually have terrible keyboard support, or the browser shortcuts interfere.
Maybe detest is too strong a word. More like I prefer to avoid it if at all possible (unless it’s something like CAD or most gaming where the mouse is basically essential)
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Yes I do. Nvim / dwm life.
Still gotta have it for web browsing though. Vimium is kinda stupid and qutebrowser never worked quite like I expected, like most minimal browsers or extensions unfortunately.
All you laptop folks are like aliens to me lol. I have one, but it’s rarely used unless I have to leave my lair.
i use my linux desktop for gaming so i really rely on the mouse.
but i exclusively use the nipple on my thinkpad to the point i can’t use a regular trackpad anymore.
touchscreens are the worst.
I use a keyboard with an inbuilt trackpoint. I never have to move my hands off the keyboard to use the mouse, it’s really amazing.
The worst input method is definitely a touchscreen, directly followed by Apple’s magic mouse and touchpads.
God damn, the Magic Mouse is the worst fucking idea ever, it’s like combining a touchpad with a mouse in the worst way possible. When I was a kid, our family computer only had a Magic Mouse and I can’t count the number of times I made a misinput, scrolled too far, or had to stop using the computer until the mouse could charge
i loved the magic mouse. macos is so gesture-driven that having gesture control on a normal mouse felt like having a macro pad.
Absolutely! I was forced to work on a Mac with a Magic mouse at my first job. There was no place for my fingers to rest comfortably. I had to hover them above the mouse or otherwise the thing would always detect inputs I didn’t want.
Combined with its minimal height, it gave me quite a lot of pain. I don’t know how people can work with this atrocity.
The charging is a meme at this point, it’s really absurd. Thank god I don’t work for a boss who’s an Apple cultist anymore.
I even tried to use the mouse while it was charging by hanging half of it off the desk but apparently they made it just turn off while charging
Kensington TB550 thumb trackball for any pointy/clicky stuff, keyboard otherwise.
I don’t like a real mouse, and haven’t for decades.
I got my first thumb trackball in the 1990s when I didn’t have a big enough desk to use a mouse. It was a Logitech Trackman Marble.
Then I got a Marble Wheel. Then the cordless one, then the M570 that replaced it.
But Logitech build quality has really went into the shitter, and after a warranty replacement, and then having to buy another replacement, I tried a couple of different thumb trackballs before settling on my Kensington one.
The ProtoArc EM01 I have is also nice, but I like the feel of the Kensington better.
I use mouse primarily. Though on a laptop, if I don’t have a mouse, I would much prefer a little red clit-mouse and as much keyboard shortcuts as I can over having to use a touch pad…
This is one of those things were I wish I did more. I remember wishing for gui funtionality on more command line software. Unfortunately I have been using guis so long now im stuck in mindset. I wish I could get rid of interfaces and have it be brain but in a utopian way not the way it looks like it will play out.
Mouse gives me back pain. So yes, I really despise it.
I even prefer to play with a gamepad on PC when it’s possible because it feels more ergonomic for my muscles.
When games are designed for it, controllers are almost always better imo, save for when you’re trying to aim, I very much dislike thumb sticks for aiming
Mouse? What is this thing you talk of?
The thing I don’t like to do is move my hand from keyboard to mouse a lot.
I had a phase in my teenage years when I tried to do as much as I could with the keyboard. Nowadays I use too many different pieces of software for me to be able to remember all key combinations everywhere, so I’ve grown out of that.
Yes. It was fine when it was used to enhance 100% keyboard operable interfaces (outside of 2d spacial interfaces like drawing) but when it became dominant and keyboard controls stopped being universal, something important was lost.
My last company had two primary software products. The one customers always opted for was the green-screen version, like something out of 1989 with an AS400 backend. Funny thing is, the backend was IBM’s latest version of the 400. :)
Had a couple of customer service and tech support jobs in the 90s using such systems. Once you get the hang of the menu tree, you can haul ass through tasks. When our customers would go for the GUI product, they’d immediately revert back to the green screen.
No, I’m a GUI user and the cursor will usually be more efficient for most types of tasks. Though paring it with keyboard commands usually increase the productivity significantly.
I’d wanna know what percentage of mouse haters are on laptops w/o an external mouse instead of desktop setups.
I’ll die on the hill that mouse + Good Guis are gonna be easier and faster for most tasks.
But laptop trackpads just still kinda suck, I’d probably go for as keyboard centric of a interface as possible if I was forced to use a laptop without an external mouse.
Also just gonna call it. People like the “Hacker aesthetic” and that’s fine. I care more that people use their PC how they want to.
Two-finger scroll won me over to the trackpad and I never looked back. A mouse is an annoying complication IMO - and on the way out along with desktop computers, despite what the out-of-touch geeks in this forum wishfully think. Might as well get ahead of the game.
Huh. I was expecting the comments here to be an echo chamber
I don’t like the mouse, personally. I never have the patience to point it precisely, often leading to miss-clicks. But all the keyboard ways of navigating search engines were not able to replace it, and I love that scroll-click is basically a second copy buffer
scroll-click is basically a second copy buffer
For decades the middle button has been ‘paste what you picked up’.
I don’t remember it working in Win95. And that was not my first OS
Soooo, you don’t like using a mouse except when using a mouse is easier.
rgr that
No, only when it requires it (point and shoot, point and draw). But a lot of things id much rather use a keyboard to navigate and its frustrating when there is no support for it
And yeah, you’re going to be left behind in a lot of applications because most people prefer the point and click interface to KB shortcuts. It is what it is, I guess. Can’t you just use emacs as your environment though? (I use vi, so it’s alien to me)
edit: lol, guess not
