He was shot in the neck and is presumably dead, as a staggering loss of blood was reportedly observed.

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    So many things I want to say, but won’t because it’ll probably get me banned…

    So…

    Thoughts and prayers!

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        nah, the mods over at /news are going ban happy if anybody says anything resembling approval of the outcome of this event

        pretty pathetic considering the community and instance rules weren’t broken

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            I guess they just got pissy at me when I called them out on it because they removed one of my comments that wasn’t even as “bad” as a bunch of others I see over there now

            so they’re just pissy little cunts, I guess

            “finally some good news jfc maybe we’re not cooked???” is what they removed as “praising/promoting violence”, which is (1) inaccurate, and (2) not even against the rules of the instance or community

            then I called them out on deleting anti-Nazi comments and they got butthurt

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      Join my anti-prayer circle! Meant to undo all the praying the Christians aren’t doing, but claimed to do. We’ll do nothing and succeed.

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      You reap what you sow, and this dipshit sowed a whole bunch of hate and now he suffered his concequences. Bye bye default Mii Character, you were a shit stains shit stain.

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      Butterfly kisses on that pretty neck.

      America… Legal modern Mafia… he was a fed pawn that got taken out by other pawns of feds.

      This is what it looks like when Americans stage a coup…

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    He was shot in the neck and is presumably dead, as a staggering loss of blood was reportedly observed.

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      I think it’s time to stop being so nice about it. People like him encourage cruelty and violence. I think it’s time to stop treating them with empathy until they learn his to be civil human beings again.

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          Tolerance is not an absolute principle, it’s just a social contract. People who breach it aren’t protected by it; end of paradox.

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            Nono, it’s not a paradox for where it starts, but for where it ends. OFC we shouldn’t tolerate hateful disruptors. Though once a war turns hot, it can be very difficult to tell who is the true agressor. Especially when both sides are calling each other all sorts of nasty things. To an ignorant, both sides can look the same, and there are a lot of ignorant people.

            It’s not a paradox for the principles it describes, but the reality it creates. Calling it a paradox is a stark warning to avoid becoming the intolerant and to never lose the context of who is doing what and what for. If you boil it down to, “don’t start none, won’t be none”, then you’ve already lost the context.

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      I am. It’s a reality of humanity. Most of us would like peace myself included. But to have peace, you have to be able to defend it. You can’t be passive. It’s kind of the idea of why you would have military, people ready and willing to fight to preserve the peace from those that end peace.

      My great-grandfather wasn’t exactly sad when he helped take down the Nazis. And I’m not going to be particularly sad when taking down a neo-Nazi. Sorry, they like to be called maga now.

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        im a fucking coward nobody keyboard warrior on the internet, I’m just glad there’s heroes out there willing to fight for what is right.

    • Sadly, violence is definitely coming… soon. Mamdani better keep his head low tomorrow … 9/11… I’m extremely worried of a significant violent event tomorrow focused around/near Mamdani.

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    https://youtu.be/JFGQdvYIJ0M

    https://youtu.be/RBgtdq3vuqg

    https://delawareblack.com/charlie-kirk-on-race-key-statements-and-controversies/

    Get wrecked white supremacist fascist, advocate for gun violence and against empathy means you shouldn’t be surprised when someone takes you up on that bet.

    “I told you once that I was searching for the nature of evil. I think I’ve come close to defining it: a lack of empathy. It’s the one characteristic that connects all the defendants. A genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow man. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy.” - G M Gilbert

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        “Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.” - Karl Popper

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          There is a difference between not tolerating intolerance and actively calling for the killing of / celebrating the death of an intolerant person.

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    My coworker showed me the video. Then proceeded to tell me that he’s been watching Kirk since last year and that it was probably a “transgender” that shot him. My coworker is Mexican. Also several other coworkers stated that they enjoy the things that he used to say.

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      The most respectful thing we can do is honor his beliefs:

      “I think it’s worth it. I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.” - Charlie Kirk

      "“I think empathy is a made up New Age term that has done a lot of damage” - Charlie Kirk

      “Guns save lives” - Charlie Kirk

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      You’re DISGUSTING! SOMEONE was Murdered with a GUN! HAVE SOME RESPECT!

      We’re talking about Charlie Kirk and NOT the School Shootings right? I NEED to make sure I’m on the Right Topic!

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      I feel like it’s cruel but this should be posterized and waved around his funeral. Maybe the people dressed in black will understand the concept of empathy then, violence really does seem to be the only language a fascist understands.

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        These ass hats tried to make empathy a bad word to give license for them to be evil. But they will lash out and cry when other ppl don’t show them empathy. Fuck 'em.

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    Saw the video and ya… he won’t be walking that one off. Medical science has come a long way but that’s testing the limits.

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      I can’t find video since everything is flooded with news people talking about it and won’t show the actual footage. Got a link?

      Edit: found one on mastodon. It’s extremely NSFL. Do not watch if even remotely squeamish. I fucking hate that motherfucker and it was still pretty tough to watch. Very lights-out.

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        I saved it, not sure where to post without it getting taken down tho…

        Edit: If anyone wants to see it and can’t find it, message and I can send a link. I don’t want to post it here as it’s probably against the rules. just be forewarned, it is NSFL and shows a lot of blood squirting.

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          That wasn’t squirting. That was a gusher. I doubt he even knew what happened. His hands instantly clenched. Immediate access to the machine elves.

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            It’s too bad that he just suddenly appeared in hell(*) looking around like Confused Travolta. It would have been more just if his brain had had a minute or two to process that after spending his life promoting guns, he was killed by a gun.

            (* Yeah, hell doesn’t exist, but he thought it did)

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        The video is all over the internet. Up close, from far away. It’s snuff. CNN played it. It’s everywhere.

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    Seems like he probably deserved it. Probably more than those kids killed in schools yesterday and the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before and the days before and the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before and

    Correction: I just remembered it was summer vacation recently so there was a brief hiatus of children getting murdered in schools. Sorry for the misinformation.

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    I’m all for gun ownership but you can do better than just accepting mass numbers of deaths.

    Make gun education a serious part of gun ownership. Guns shouldn’t be easily accessible to anyone regardless of training.

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      Also American society needs serious unfucking at all levels. Conservatives are bonkers but the “gun deaths are due to mental health issues” argument has merit; healthy and well-adjusted people don’t grab the closest murder weapon and kill random people. Guns are a scapegoat so that politicians can avoid addressing the real issues.

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        I agree with you.

        “Guns don’t kill people, people do,” is broadly true.

        They sure make it easier though, which is why they shouldn’t be anywhere and everywhere.

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        healthy and well-adjusted people don’t grab the closest murder weapon and kill random people

        People are still fundamentally apes. People get angry, people get drunk or high, people are low on sleep. Well functioning societies realize that at times people are not healthy and well-adjusted and try to limit the damage that someone can do to themselves and others in those circumstances. The US isn’t the only country in the world where people have mental health crises, or have road rage, or get depressed. What makes the US unique is that it makes tools for murdering people widely available to anybody who wants them.

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          The US isn’t the only country in the world where people have mental health crises, or have road rage, or get depressed

          Yes, but it’s one of the few first world countries who do almost nothing about it. Did you know mass shootings are on the rise in Europe too despite no relaxation of gun control laws? France is even talking about regulating knive sales due to knife-based crime. Not so coincidentally, this is happening in a time of social and economic uncertainty. Also, one reason I say it’s a mental health thing is that America has more knife-based violent crime than, say, Britain. This points to a deeper factor beyond gun laws leading to the amount of gun violence in America, because as it turns out violence in America is just insane across the board. All countries have people with mental health crises, but the absolute inadequacy of the response to those crises and the number of financial and social destabilizing factors making them more frequent and worse is uniquely American. I mean, with nonsense like tent cities being a common thing of course gun crime will be through the roof. This would explain why places like Norway, Austria and Serbia are near the bottom of homicide rating lists and the top of gun ownership lists at the same time.

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            Yes, but it’s one of the few first world countries who do almost nothing about it.

            It’s true that the US social safety net is bad, but the US isn’t that much more crazy than other places. If you search for “mental health care crisis in ______” you’ll see every country thinks they have a mental health care crisis.

            Did you know mass shootings are on the rise in Europe

            Is this based on statistics or a feeling? Statistically it seems like it’s a very low but steady rate, although statistics are skewed by Spiders Anders.

            this is happening in a time of social and economic uncertainty

            It’s also happening at a time of mass social media where fear about this sort of thing spreads like wildfire.

            one reason I say it’s a mental health thing is that America has more knife-based violent crime than, say, Britain

            Sure, but Brazil’s stabbing death rate is 8x that of the US, I guess their mental health is 8x worse? South Africa is more than 30x the US rate, so they must have some really crazy people there. There are some other major differences between the UK and US, just like there are other major differences between the US and Brazil or the US and South Africa.

            The US does have issues with its response to mental health, but it’s not so different from other places. The lack of a social safety net in general causes problems. It means both untreated mental health issues, plus people living in poverty which leads to crime too. But, the bigger issue is that when Americans have a bad day, guns are so incredibly easily accessible.

            Take a look at stabbing deaths in the UK vs. US and gun murders in the UK vs. the US. Yeah, stabbing deaths are maybe 50% higher, which points to something causing more violence. But, gun murders are 7000% higher, which suggests that the #1 issue really is access to guns.

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      Americas entire culture around guns needs to change, not just a little bit more training and education.

      People who misuse guns don’t respect them or the power they yield. They views them as toys, and more often than not fuck around and find out.

      Teaching them how to lock a gun up and telling them it’s important won’t change behaviours until people start to respect guns and fear them. Not casually pose with them for Christmas cards with their grandbaby in the room.

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      Indeed. The USA is fairly unique in its gun culture - and violence. Far too casual. A .22 can kill a person, and there’s people driving kids to sports practice with 9mm and larger strapped to their bodies.

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      I don’t understand this line of thought

      Everyone agrees that guns should be harder to access. Everyone agrees that the U.S. is now fascist.

      Why the fuck would we cede control of our guns to a govt. that’s shown it’s incapable of doing anything but subjugating us? Seriously, why the fuck does that occur to any of you sharing this thought?

      It makes me think you’re controlled opposition, genuinely.

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        Op was talking about gun education being a part of gun ownership. They said nothing about giving up guns.

        There’s more to gun control than just taking everyone’s guns.

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        People have been asking for gun control far longer than trump has been in office. The current acting president won’t sway their opinions on that, but it might sway their opinions how extreme they want the control to be.