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RaoulDuke@anarchist.nexus to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 day ago

Greta Thunberg says she is being detained by Israel in cell ‘infested with bedbugs’

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Greta Thunberg says she is being detained by Israel in cell ‘infested with bedbugs’

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  • guldukat@lemmy.world
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    She’s got balls. Straight dude here, love her.

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      why did you need to announce you are a straight dude? 🤣

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        This is Lemmy, just assuming straight white cis dude is much less likely than the old place.

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        straight dudes do be lovin their balls.

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        I read it as saying she is a “straight up dude”. Was that not the intention?

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          No. I love her.

      • guldukat@lemmy.world
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        I announced she had balls, then announced I love her. I do, she’s tough af

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    Do they purposely use the worst photos of her?

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      If they are pro-Greta why would they use a really good picture here? They want to show how bad her incarceration is.

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      Man, I wish my worst photo looked that good.

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        I was about to say. For someone detained in a prison abroad she looks freaking glowing in the photo lol

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      Yes. There are plenty of good photos of her.

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    The Swedish government, and the EU commission is not making nearly enough noise as it should here.

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      Kowtowing to israel? Imagine.

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    So they’re torturing her. Israel is torturing her.

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      Maybe but blah blah Israel reasons we gotta torture her. Sure you understand blah blah

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      it sounds like next time we see her she’ll be barely alive

      if she’s fine, well, we know that won’t be the case. and anyway inside she’s hurt. but we know that anyway. this time it will be drop dead at any time hurt

      ok

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      Israel has no way to win in this situation. Torturing her will result in media backlash. Executing her would only make a martyr, which is even worse. Somehow, Israel didn’t choose to kick her out immediately.

      • ExtremeDullard@piefed.social
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        The worst thing Israel could have done to discredit Greta Thunberg and damage her brand would have been to give her a nice meal, a warm bed in a nice hotel, gently push her onboard the next 1st class flight back to Stockholm the next day and release a statement telling her to go play SJW somewhere else. Instead, they’re doing everything possible to confirm they’re truly bad people, like dumbasses.

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          Theyre fucking orcs. Hit that ‘translate from Hebrew’ button. Only other language you’ll see anyone say anything even close to that vile is German.

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            Huh, translate what? I’m confused

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          Being plain evil without pretending otherwise has worked out just fine until now, why would they stop?

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          True.

          And I think I have an explanation for that:

          We do not often read how Israeli politicians talk, verbatim*. They got used responding only to their own media landscape, where apparently they can go much farther in their rhetoric (and subsequent actions) without repercussions. There’s also some deep-seated misogyny specifically against women of other race/religion or however they define that for themselves. Like, they’d never do that if she was a typical NY Jew, for example.

          Of course that isn’t the whole picture; we must also look at the unquestioning support they’ve been getting from most “Western” countries which no doubt contributed to them developing this sort of impunity.

          * Netanyahu often speaks English when addressing the world. It’s still bad enough, but it allows him to present a different picture to the world than to his constituency.

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            It’s kinda like all those comments on WWII that begin with “The Nazis could’ve won if only they…” and then describe a course of action that would require the Nazis to not be Nazis.

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              But Nazis, as demonstrated here, can’t ever be human again. They will always be Nazis once they become Nazis.

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          Exactly! They picked one of the foolish routes instead.

          • primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus
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            Will it prove foolish? Will there be consequences?

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              Who knows.

              My guess is that eventually they’ll cross some invisible line and their former allies begin to turn against them. Where that line is can also change depending on the global political atmosphere. As long as Russia and USA interfere with the Middle East, we’re locked in a proxy war style situation with no clear way out. If Russia and USA suddenly loose interest in this eternal war zone, then Israel would need to watch out, because crossing that invisible line would have consequences, and the line would be a lot closer than ever before.

              For the time being though, I don’t think Israel needs to worry about that. They could start using Zyklon B on Palestinian children, and the world would not interfere.

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          Didn’t they already do that once?

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            Yes, that’s what they did last time.

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        They could publicly execute her and governments around the world would still support them.

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          Well some of them would, because that’s how international politics works. However, a surprising number of countries have recognized Palestine, so I think the number of friends Israel has might be in a decline.

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        They realize that kicking her out just means she will be on her way back on the next boat. They are trying to intimidate her into not coming back.

        I hope the Swedish government has a harsh answer for one of their citizens getting kidnapped in International Waters.

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          One they haven’t given for genocide?

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            Yes, because she is swedish

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              That they failed to apply last time she was “detained” by Israel?

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                Yes, because I hope.

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              Why does this matter? Why do they care?

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                I have no idea

                I would guess that any given country cares for their nationals, but that’s a very varying metric

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                  It’s not like they havent murdered blonde ladies from rich countries before.

                  The rich don’t care, because of what Zionism does to push the overtones window, what it does as a laboratory of oppression.

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        Israel has no way to win in this situation.

        They could have not taken her hostage.

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          But then more people might be willing to risk it and ride in aid. Israel definitely doesn’t want that. (Not saying it’s a good thing just the optics would cause them just as many problems)

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          Too late for that. They screwed up.

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        She’s probably just a useful idiot. Might be useful to interrogate her and get whoever got her to do this.

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          • Anas@lemmy.world
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            It’s the latter, I have this user tagged.

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              Now I do too

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          Do you have any theories as to who…uh…put her up to this?

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            Nothing great. Could be Zaher Birawi working with Hamas, but that information could also be another propaganda bit.

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          Are u for real??

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      So out of character!

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      Paris is torturing everyone too.

      It’s a genocide.

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        What deranged nonsense are you even blathering about?

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          Paris has a bedbugs problem.

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    Israel is a terrorist country.

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      Am I wrong in saying they’re (seemingly) quantifiably worse than every other “terrorist” country in the region? I know plenty have human rights issues, but I can’t imagine anyone is competitive on sheer quantity of murder and atrocities!?

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        There are no others actively perpetrating genocide on the massive scale Israel is. Morally and legally that puts Israel in a class of its own.

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        But they’re more friendly to Christians, which is all the West cares about

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          They’re not even… They are murdering Palestinian Christians right alongside the Muslims.

          American Christians only care about Israel’s role in the “end times.”

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    Just Crimes Against Humanity Things.

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      It’s literally genocide

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        There are no doubts.

        The full on attempt to suppress the fact has failed.

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    Israel has their buddy America to back them up.

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      More than a buddy… America is the reason they are capable of any of this. It’s disgusting what the failed leadership here has allowed, and Trump has opened every single floodgate in his second term, empowering them like never before.

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    Exactly the kind of thing Israel would do. Such a horrible nation, such horrible people.

    Like that time they used an armored water cannon full of stinky shit… Or the time they cut the tail off a CIA agents pet dog.

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      they also put their dogs on drugs and then let the dogs rape prisoners and mual them to death. horrible eye-whitness accounts of these are all over youtube.

      EDIT: You have downvoted me. I wasn’t going to provide recipets. So now here are some eye whiteness testimonies. Go ahead and listen:

      https://youtube.com/watch?v=GWqvDYbpbIg

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VaBgIEpTlAs

      https://youtu.be/R7fjcjWeuPo

      https://youtube.com/watch?v=93Q_8OAD_-o

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7THsqr3hH1o

      They did it on camera and IOF solider even bragged about it, now it’s up to you want to believe the victims or no?

      https://youtube.com/shorts/2L86c46FBbc

      https://youtube.com/watch?v=0W5Z9_gv8p8

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    Greta <3

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    Are we ready to believe victims now? Are we ready to act?

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    Sooo is anyone gonna do anything here? I know USA would back up Israel here but, like, someone help?

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      They will be treated kinda badly in order to encourage them to not get on the next set of boats coming down, then they will be released.

      Some will rejoin the next flotilla will which will hopefully be a hundred boats or more and maybe some of the countries will provide naval cover to stop the drones from attacking them on the seas.

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    that bloody sucks

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    Hey at least she has a bed, amirite? checkmate

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    At least they haven’t lost her.

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    I bet those bedbugs were vectors for some type of bioweapon so they could eliminate their greta problem. She needs to get checked out by a trusted physician asap.

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      Dude. They’re bedbugs. We don’t need extra shit on top.

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