I very much enjoyed this video, but I wish it was 15 minutes shorter. He spends too time giving an emotional argument and by the time he starts giving facts and statistics, most people that need to hear this have probably left.
With that said, he summarizes my feelings on the topic perfectly, but with some added historical context.
As a planet, we have to address this issue of Sociopathic Oligarchs. It used to be that people would get rich enough to affect their own nation, but now we have people like Elon Musk, who are acting like their own personal country, and cutting personal deals with other nations, for his own benefit, with no regard for the nations themselves.
Now the billionaires all have a new objective - to become trillionaires. That will allow them to literally enslave entire nations.
After that, it is only a matter of time before multiple trillionaires form an alliance, and literally take over the world, with a world “government” that will simply be their own personal demands. We will ALL be slaves.
We can’t just do it in our country, or they will set up shop somewhere else, and abuse us from a distance. This will take the entire planet agreeing that we have to reign in the power of trillionaires, and I don’t see how that happens, when nearly anyone can be turned by a billion dollar bribe.
As a planet, we have to address this issue of Sociopathic Oligarchs.
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Address the corrosive effects of concentrated wealth by organizing labor into an equitable society ready to defend itself against imperial aggression
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Don’t get called a Tankie on the internet
You gotta pick one.
We can’t just do it in our country, or they will set up shop somewhere else, and abuse us from a distance.
I mean, we can just do it in our country. And then we can support our peers abroad in their own efforts to do it in their countries. And this is what we’d call a Worker’s International.
But… eventually, we’d have to come into conflict with the armed agents of capital. And we’d have to fight them, with many of use dying in the struggle. And if we did this kind of conflict, we’d benefit from some kind of mobile artillery system capable of both shielding us from small arms fire and responding with explosive ordinance.
And oops, now we’re Tankies.
I don’t see how that happens, when nearly anyone can be turned by a billion dollar bribe.
Anyone can be turned, but not everyone can be turned. That’s the whole prestige of capitalism in the modern era. You get people on board by promising them that they’ll be rich one day, too. And if you string enough people along for long enough, you can extract their labor from the economy with a promise of future comfort and economic security nearly indefinitely.
Or, at least until the people you’re stringing along exceed the volume of resources at your disposal. Then you need to thin the herd a bit or risk sharing the wealth.
So its Socialism or Barbarism. But there’s no ending where we all just get to be billionaires.
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“It used to be that people would get rich enough to affect their own nation… .” When? Where? There has never been a world where borders are a real thing that insulates one state from another (I assume you mean state, “nation” as the imaginary common identity makes even less sense). This is not a matter of a few individuals making this system function poorly, the purpose of this system is to generate wealth for a privileged few.
European imperialism/settler-colonialism and the capitalism that emerged through it has always functioned this way. It was funded by individuals with systemic privilege that afforded exceptional wealth and was realized through the exploitation of poor Europeans disadvantaged in those societies and the genocide of indigenous peoples all over the world.Thousands and thousands of nations were targeted for genocide by people who would never even step foot on the same continent as them. Wealth concentration may have improved the conditions for settlers in some places, but that wasn’t for the betterment of the state or nation or whatever you have imagined here. Workers and farmers with relatively high material security and wealth were allowed that level of power because it maintained a racialized and gendered hierarchy that was necessary to effectively carry out the violent extraction of wealth for the most privileged in society. That was in no way universal; there hasn’t been centuries of civil recognition and labour rights movements because most people flourished under this system.
There was no break in how this society was organised that allowed these exceptionally naughty billionaires to exist, that amount of wealth concentration is not new and is only possible through a system that devalues life.
I wonder if anyone else has made the observation that a global revolution is necessary to prevent capitalism from killing as much as it desires… 🤔
No, capitalism is destroying the world. Capitalism promotes greed, but the base issue is the system that favors and rewards these behaviors.
Look at it this way- you may be the most equitable and charitable motherfucker in the real world, but if you sit down to play Monopoly with your family, you will become a vile corporate money hoarder and at some point someone will get so furious you’ll be finding those little red house pieces in odd corners and between seating cushions for years.
It is not people, it is the system that is the problem.
I think I understand this position, such that you don’t want people focusing on removing the oligarchs without also dismantling the machine that makes them.
But the machine doesn’t have to crush orphans. It gives you a pat on the head and hands you a cookie each time you do crush an orphan but it has other settings. They aren’t getting punished for not exploiting the system, they just don’t get as much of a reward as they could. No one gets to say “I had no choice but to crush that 99th orphan, so I could get that 99th cookie.” You could’ve stopped at 90, or 50, or 1.
They are exploiting a broken machine, to the detriment of others, for their own benefit. That is nothing but greed.
Eh, remember humans invented capitalism.
The problem is that our brains were designed for eating berries in a cave, not driving industrialized processes at global scale.
Our range of empathy extends roughly to our line of sight. When people in our social circle are suffering in front of us, most of us will try to do something for them. But people that are far away that get affected by our actions exist only in the logical part of our brains and don’t evoke an emotional response.
Living under capitalism forces you to adapt or perish. I hate money. I hate having to spend time thinking about investments and retirement and savings and down payments and credit scores. Cost of living in my city is insane and I’m terrified that if my income doesn’t increase every year, I won’t be able to keep up with escalating rent and bills. In order to keep my life as it is, I am forced to think like a capitalist.
When everything around me is becoming more expensive, I must also increase my personal profits.
that’s what life is. That’s what all living things do. Adapt, or die.
Nobody is forcing you to invest in anything. You are more than welcome to pull all your assets out and go buy a boat and live on it. Stop blaming your personal choices on ‘society’. You can live somewhere else. You can get a different job.
Lots of people live their lives without your level of privileged and do just fine. Your anxiety is your obsession with keeping up with the Jonses around you. God forbid your standard of living be slightly reduced and you have to make a cutback in your vacations.
Yes, this is a valid choice. Live amongst your family and friends and everything you cherish, or become a survivalist and abandon all human connection.
You edited to add a lot of projection to your post. I am literally complaining about rent and bills in the city I grew up in and have been living in for 35 years. I have very few extravagances and am typing to you on a 5 year old phone with a small crack along the edge of the screen. You make it sound like I should sell one of my yachts and shut the fuck up. In truth I’m about to lose my contract job at the end of next month and am unsure how quickly I can find another.
Don’t even bother with that guy. He’s so right, that you said things you didn’t. He knows you better than you know yourself. Goal posts moving so far they need a new zip code.
And if you made 3million a year you’d make the same complaint. Are you angry you have to eat food and sleep too?
The issue is your personal offense that life requires money. You’re welcome to go become Amish if you want. But I don’t think you’ll make that choice.
Just like it was your choice to do contract work rather than find full time employment. I was in that situation myself once, I choose full time employment with an ‘undesirable’ company and it turned into a great career. People give me shit all the time about my job not being ‘real’ but I’ll take the fat benefits and the good pay over a ‘brand name’ job with shitty contracting gigs. The fact you even have investments means you are in the top of the economy strata.
Only person rescuing from your situation is yourself. The revolution isn’t coming to rescue from capitalism.
not sure why the downvotes, seriously…anyone who legitimately worries about “preserving their capital” (ie. investments) has already won the game, compared to the overwhelming majority of the world.
most people would be lucky to buy/pay off one home by the time they die, then pass it onto their kids while being able to cover the inheritance taxes.
many more struggle just to keep food on the table and pay their rent/utility bills.
because most lemmy people are well-off IT types whose identity is ‘if i’m not a billionaire i’m struggling’. or people who just make poor financial decisions and blame billionaires for it because it’s convenient and easy, and budgeting isn’t.
delusion is a hell of a drug. and people downvote anything that challenges their self-delusion that they are ‘struggling’ in their 200K year incomes.
i got banned from reddit for pissing off rich people in my local city subreddit who love to make posts about how unfair their lives are. my local subreddit thinks you’re ‘struggling’ on incomes of 250-500K a year, despite that being in the top 5% of incomes. people who think life is cruel and unfair because they can only afford a 1.5million dollar home and not the 5 million dollar home they feel entitled too. and they often go so far to argue with you their ‘pain’ is more legitimate that someone who struggles with food and heat and clothing payments, because they are ‘more evolved and sensitive’ than those people.
Bingo.
This is what ideologues get wrong. Greed is rooted in our biology. Capitalism is something we created, not something from on high that we submitted to like a God. And what they don’t get is that communism/anarchism isn’t going to change anything unles you create a totalitarian state where you beat the shit out of anyone who wants more for themselves and enforce strict behavior codes.
Idk traveling around the world made me more empathetic and understanding of people. Some people travel the world and decide to conquer it… ya know? It’s just people.
Right. The question is: are Americans genetically pre-disposed to be more greedy, or is it their system that makes them that way?
Like was citizens united a failure of our economic system or government? One would argue Americans could have pressured their government to legislate that out but were too stupid to see that a cause of the problem: is that capitalism or a lack of education and active citizenship
No you’re on point we value greed more in 2025 than we did in 1925-1950. I don’t think capitalism or the system its self is problematic. There’s lots of room for social programs, regulations, taxation etc in capitalism to balance the scales. I think having an uneducated overworked population, and decades of political corruption are probably more of the cause than just saying “capitalism bad”. Personally I think having large top heavy institutions always leads to corruption and strong men so add any political system you want. With enough centralized power comes corruption and exploitation.
Lots to agree with here.
…but you’re very far afield from my question.
Well we had to define “the system”. If you ask the monarchists: democracy is the corrupt system that allowed the greed and corruption to take hold? Perhaps the uneducated masses don’t need political power because their personal greed and ignorance empowers the capitalists in charge?
I don’t have any fundamental issues with humans owning land and investing in businesses. I don’t think that specification is the one where we went completely wrong. I’d say socialism is where we went wrong (just for lols) we taxed the masses and gave the resources to the few. The government took power from the individuals and handed it to small groups of their friends. And they used it to entrench power in the government. It’s just backward socialism with the money trickling up. The Republican congressmen all got rich on Medicare fraud. It’s crazy how these socialist programs end up solely benefiting the people in charge of them.
Is that a problem with the economic system or the government?
I’d urge you to consider most of americas downfall in the last 60 years was sold through fear not greed. Red scares, war on terrorism. Fear caused us to erode our rights to the greediest power-hungry grifters in town. If we were so greedy why would we continue to impoverish ourselves to form an oligarchy. I find the Marx argument on the subject, a bit old and lacking in modern nuance.
Huh, why are you talking about Marx?
Do you believe fear and greed are mutually exclusive?
Do you think the average American politician is more greedy than: a Saudi politician, a Russian politician, a British empire politician, an Africa warlord chopping off kids hands? An Israeli prime minister? I also disagree that Americans enshroud any more primitive desires than any other human.
Perhaps it’s our culture itself. Not economy or government at all. Maybe id agree with that criticism. It’s just wild to say that 300 million people are more greedy than the other 8 billion people and it’s because we use the same economic system as Norway…
Is comparing greed to evil really appropriate? Just because Gengis Khan existed doesn’t mean all other humans get a pass.
Trying to separate culture from politics isn’t possible.
You’re projecting a lot onto a very brief question I posed…and you’re doing everything but answering it.
Such a good video. You can and should share it with your family. This is easily the most digestible video for anyone who’s not educated on the workings of late stage capitalism.
I cannot upvote, like, and share this hard enough. This one video sums up all the frustrations I’ve had for the last two decades!
Same as it ever was.
the world will be fine but we may not
live and let live
if we play our cards right we’ll be fine
Not the same as it ever was by a longshot. It is very much worse than it ever was, because the engagement to profit has been weaponized and dictates how the entirety of our global civilization fundamentally works.
It is most certainly not the same as it has historically been.
Except now the level of wealth, influence, and power of a few has reached new levels accelerating the erosion of our planet in a fraction of the time.
Same as it ever was. Today’s incomprehensible horrors will seem quaint and simple 100 years in the future.
Sigh, when people think they are being profound but just spout the most trivial shit…
No, I don’t think I’m being profound by saying an extremely common phrase akin to “the more things change, the more things stay the same.” I just don’t think today is all that different from the past, even with trillionaires.
Again: in the past they couldn’t, even if they tried, fuck up the whole biosphere of our planet as we are doing right now.
So no, not same as always. The underlying principle yes, but the scale was physically not possible before.
Except if you mean last 150 years, then agreed.
Wouldn’t that be more like “same as it ever will be”?
Just like nuclear technology is no longer a threat to humanity, right? We’re dang near a hundred years there.
I’m always on the fenc with Drew Gooden, but this is a good one
I’m curious which of their stuff you don’t like; Drew is one of the few people I subscribe to on youtube. They’re fairly funny, they don’t upload that often, and they seem to be genuine in terms of only making content when they think they’ve got something entertaining, interesting, or important. Even in the sillier videos, the deeper messaging is usually something related to exposing dark patterns.
I think it’s more just how I discovered him, the YT algo pushed him to me for quite a while which made me really skeptical of him. His content is decent like you said, but I’m always wary of people the algo pushes.
TIL coyotes are monogamous. Also, I agree with you about Drew Gooden, though I’m curious about your choice of pronouns.
I’m he/him, otherwise I usually try to refer to people as they/them because you never know, and I don’t want to have to research people before I refer to them. Down with gendered pronouns IMO - what a nuisance.
That makes sense. Thank you for taking the time to respond.





