One of the bosses at my work has a massive Fall Guy truck, and often has huge items delivered to work, just so he has an excuse to use it.
“You won’t get that in the back of a Fiesta”
That’s right dickhead, because we’d have the items delivered to our homes.
Or, and hear me out, I can rent a truck for the one time a year I need one. 20 bucks for a few hours from uhaul vs… 20,000 more for a big truck over a commuter car.
That’s what I keep thinking about. Like sometimes I would love an older, smaller styled truck. It could be really useful, but it sucks they aren’t really an option anymore.
But then I think about it, and how often would I use it? I just bought a TV and had to have it delivered because it wouldn’t fit in our car. We recently moved, and it would have been great.
But other than that, I honestly can’t think of any time recently I’ve needed it.
I’ve thought that too. If they made a tiny truck, like an old style 90s ranger or tacoma but as an EV? I’d buy that tomorrow. Literally tomorrow I’d go buy it. But of course they don’t, they’re all these monstrously sized bohemoths that I have no interest in driving.
Until they make my dream tiny truck I’ll just go rent one.
In Asia they sell thousands of those Japanese and Korean mini trucks and vans, but they are designed for roads 80kmh and below. In Australia we have the Hilux 2wd utes which are small and bare bones. But for every one of those, Toyota sell 20 HiAce vans.
Yeah, why not go for anything 90’s? Or do you want a stupid driving smart truck?
The Ranger was actually the one I was picturing. One of my friends in high school had one, and we all thought it was so cool. This was in a small town in Texas, so we could all ride in the back, which looking back… yeah, not the best idea. I’ve heard stories of people getting hurt. So I wouldn’t do it anymore. But it was always just a cool truck and I was always a little jealous of her.
If practical a trailer is a good option. Get a tow hitch and just rent a trailer when you need. Moved house with my Suzuki and a 6x4 enclosed trailer.
But remove the tow hitch before reselling the car because the buyer might try to argue extended wear on your car through towing stuff
I have a hitch exclusively for a bike rack, could just say that.
but wouldn’t the buyer be right? why mislead them?
It absolutely depends on how often you use it. But if you leave it, I can almost guarantee that you will get a lower price for it, even if you only used it once. I agree that, if you are using it regularly, you need to be honest about it
20k just for the cost of the vehicle, probably MORE, plus extra insurance, gas tax cost all to save 50$ once in a while on a truck rental.
Not to mention that a pickup is basically half a completely useless car. You can’t sit in the back, you can’t really use it for hauling delicate stuff… It’s just such a bizzare concept for non farmers.
You’d be surprised what I fit in my Yaris hatchback
I put a washing machine in the back of my Toyota matrix.
For real I had a 2003 Hyundai Tiburon a while back. Went to a tool consignment store. Saw a full sized tablesaw with stand. Owner told me he’d give me $25 off if I could fit the whole thing in my Tiburon…and I did. And it wasn’t even hard.
Fr; I have a tiny CRZ coupe, but when I fold the back buckets down I can fit a tremendous amount of stuff in my car, even awkward and unwieldy-shaped things
I fold the seats down in my 12 year old BMW and have moved twice with that car! I even fit my mountain bike in the back many times (until I got a hitch rack because it was annoying lol).
My Prius holds a surprising amount with the back seats down.
Yaris ftw
You may not like it, but this is what peak freight vehicle looks like
Fr though kei trucks are sexy as fuck
Freight? No.
You’d use a sprinter van for that.
I would get one if they weren’t all right hand drive :(
I’d get one if they were freeway legal everywhere
I dont like it, I love it
I had a supervisor that blew his entire OT and 401k on $90000 truck and proceeded to complain about how shit the gas mileage was.
Meanwhile I bet a prius will carry 99% of what they put in it
Oh, they would never put anything in it. That might scratch the bed.
They brag about being able to carry stuff then get one of those stupid long cab short beds that are good at nothing
Hey, they aren’t good at nothing. They excel at killing pedestrians.
The Tesla Cybertruck will certainly be the ultimate truck for killing kids.
Yes but at least the blood will be easier to wipe off of the stainless steel.
My Subaru Forester with a roof rack hauls almost anything short of large furniture or a yard of gravel.
See that’s what gets me. You need a very specifically large load that is (in my experience) extremely rare. In the gas savings alone you could just rent a truck when you need to move gravel or large furniture and not scratch up your $90,000 truck.
It costs like $30 to rent a box truck from home depot to take a big load home. I can get a few sheets of plywood on my Outback with a couple ratchet straps and not going over 40 lol.
Hell a roof rack on my 20 year old 3 series and a ton of rope has moved sofas, plywood and pallets, and one memorable trip 5 bikes
The people I know with expensive trucks still get everything delivered anyway. There’s always some excuse why their super versatile amazingly useful truck isn’t quite the right tool for the job, but somehow it’s always the right tool to drive around town to their office job or the grocery store. Literally makes zero sense, ever.
Hitch and a trailer is how I deal with that with my Crosstrek.
I’ve been seriously considering getting a hitch and a light trailer. It would be more than sufficient for nearly everything we do, especially if it could haul a motorcycle when needed.
Does the remaining 1% get resold by shady people in back alleys? “Hey you, you want a deal on 1% of some produce from a farmer’s market? Fell off the back of a Prius.”
My coworker lives in a downtown apartment with a cramped parking garage and bought a full size pickup to drive 1.5 miles to the parking garage at our workplace to write code. I’m embarrassed for them and keep telling them to buy a bicycle
1.5 miles? Shit i’d just walk.
Seriously, that’s a 20-25 minute walk. Perfect, natural exercise opportunity completely wasted!
Not even worth taking the bicycle out.
I’d probably bike it but I’m also lazy so…
What a douche nozzle. I have to drive two hours each day and fucking despise it. Would love to be able to walk.
Jesus. And I felt guilty for my commute only taking about 10 minutes down a highway. However, I didn’t have a choice because the only access to the industrial park where I worked was from that highway. I still felt bad about it.
Even a Honda fit would be better!
A Honda Fit would be marginally better. A bicycle would be vastly better.
I wouldn’t know, riding a bike around here would be a death sentence. Roadrage can often end in a drive-by in Oklahoma if the news is to be believed and drunk driving is a pretty common sight in the area I live. There’s also no bike lane, usually no sidewalks and long stretches of road without a crosswalk in sight.
Or you could choose chaos and badger him to get a Prius lol.
Nothing against Prius owners, they’re efficient and reliable cars.
Haven’t you’ve heard! Priuses are cool now. Who knew a major face lift and .5 more liters would change public opinions so much.
#Glovebox 😂
Priuses (Prii?) aren’t cool, the Citroen Ami is the new cool
As long as you’re in Europe. Those things could be useful in North America but I can’t see how they will ever get approved in Canada or in the US. I don’t know about micro cars in Mexico and their laws but in Canada, everything between a full fledged car and an e-bike is considered “too dangerous, unsafe, not serious, toy-like” and is generally forbidden to go on roads and/or bike paths.
For example, in Quebec, it’s illegal to use an e-bike under 18 years old without a scooter licence. So the Ami has no chance at all here, unfortunately.
If the Smart got approval, why can’t the Citroen Ami?
They are very different “vehicles”. The class which allows Ami to operate in most European countries does not exist in most North American jurisdictions. A Smart is classified as a car and is road legal but an Ami is considered a quadricycle and as such is usually not considered road legal in most of North America.
Where I live it’s not considered as any type of valid vehicle. If it sticks to quadricycle, the law is going to require pedals, limit it to 25 kph and a helmet for the passengers.
There are places in the US that have some “neighbourhood EV” laws that make these legal on local roads, but it’s far from being common.
So if you are successful in importing one, you will most likely only be able to use it on private land.
Also, no insurance company is going to want to insure it.
And, to top ot all, the dealer, Stellantis, is apparently much more interested in selling pick-ups to North Americans.
…don’t expect to get one through Canadian or USA Stellantis dealer networks. They are 100% obsessed on moving EV versions of Jeeps, RAM pick-ups, the new Airflow crossover and their ProMaster truck offerings.
sources:
https://citroenvie.com/the-ami-100-electric-isnt-coming-to-us-but-get-ready-for-sarit/
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/electric-citroen-ami-coming-us-cant-buy/
My Prius is not cool. It just saves me money.
They stopped making the fit.
I know, sad days. They’re still sold in Europe and Asia if I remember right.
I used to own an HR-V. They’re good cars, but slow as stink. They took something with the wind profile of the CR-V and put the same engine in it as the '06 Civic. Still did like high 30s/low 40s on gas most of the time. So that was cool. Plus, it’s pretty spacious. It just needed like 40 more hp. Or a manual. Or both.
It was built on the same platform as the Fit so it’s got the neat rear seats that flip up. Seriously useful small car. I once hauled a whole ass 60" countertop halfway across the state in it. I guess they just decided the American market wants to go upsize. The Fit is probably one of the best suburban cars ever.
At least we can still buy the VW Golf.
No they did not, it’s still sold in Europe. New model came out recently too.
Driving 1.5miles twice a day everyday is a sure way to drain the car battery and multiply the wear and tear on the engine. Short trips are fine occasionally, but sooner rather than later the check engine light will pop up.
No? You anti car people know nothing about cars and it shows. Your alternator would have to be dead if it can’t charge the battery in a mile.
Short trips don’t damage the engine any more than normal wear and tear, it’s not like they’re redlining the entire mile and a half?
I’ve owned many cars and ran a van hire company.
Look at the owners manual in your car, and it will say trips less than a couple of miles are considered severe duty, and the oil needs to be changed more often. Your can get condensation in the engine that can break down the oil faster.
Cold starts are where most of the wear and tear occurs.
I believe it comes from a saying that most wear is in the first ten minutes of driving.
Which I also believe assumes you don’t “wait for the car to warm up”
That saying. I still find some truth to it. While modern cars can adjust fuel mixture to different conditions. There still is an unavoidable few minutes where the engine runs in an open loop and wear is greater.
That said, in my vehicle when I listen for the engine to “close” it happens in less than 5 minutes.
This distance is perfect for an electric scooter, even basic Xiaomi M365 will do.
Why don’t you just let him enjoy what he wanted? If he wanted something else, he’d get something else?
The truck hate on lemmy is pretty cringe
Having a vehicle that emits more pollution, does more damage to roads, and is more likely to kill pedestrians is pretty fucking selfish and deserving of hate.
Selfish? Bro get a fucking grip.
The responsibility of pollution is not on individuals. The pollution from mega corps compared to the every day man is a staggering exponential difference.
More likely to kill pedestrians? All vehicles can kill pedestrians. How is this even a talking point you idiots parrot back and forth.
It’s also on individuals, our purchasing choices shape what corporations decide to make. if people only bought fuel efficient vehicles companies wouldn’t build these idiotic mega polluting trucks.
And trucks are vastly more dangerous for pedestrians than other vehicles. they have massive blind spots, and weight a shitton more. As trucks have kept getting bigger, pedestrian deaths have gone up, that’s why we bring it up.
Would you rather get hit by a Ford F-150 or a Ford Focus? Seriously, imagine you’re walking and one of those things plows into you.
They’re unnecessarily dangerous to everyone else. There are plenty of studies to back up the obvious
It’s way more likely to kill pedestrians. Trucks and SUVs have terrible sight lines for pedestrians, especially children, and especially in front of the vehicle. They also are more damaging to pedestrians in an collision, and have much higher rates of injury and fatality than sedans, station wagons, and coupes. The X factor here is that a higher percentage of the less secure, less capable drivers buy larger vehicles to insulate themselves from other vehicles on the road, and they drive with that same mentality around pedestrian-rich areas.
Trucks and SUVs are terrible, and you should only buy one if you need one, otherwise you look like a fucking jackass.
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My next vehicle purchase is going to be the largest truck I can find not requiring a CDL.
Make sure you grab some “I did that” Biden stickers to slap on gas pumps. Really lean in to that “I make poor decisions and blame the wrong person for the consequences” energy.
I don’t think it’s hate, more like second hand embarrassment.
@linux.community
Yeah I’d be embarrassed constantly if I was you too
Help! I got burnt!
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It suits most of us Americans well! Big, fat, slow, and ugly but full of potential which most of us will never realize! Just the way God intended.
If the people downvoting you really want to make a difference they should:
Stop using leaf bowers: https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/emissions-test-car-vs-truck-vs-leaf-blower.html
Stop eating food not home grown: https://coolclimate.org/blog-cars-coal-cows-consumption
Instead of judging trucks: https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=alts&year=2023&vtype=Diesel&srchtyp=yearAfv&pageno=1
And not little timmy for owning that v8 mustang: https://www.osvehicle.com/the-pros-and-cons-of-sports-cars-are-they-bad-for-the-environment/
Stop using leaf bowers
I don’t.
Stop eating food not home grown
I don’t have the room or the skills to grow enough food to feed my family of three by myself.
Eat the rich
Sure, how do you propose I go about doing that?
Instead of judging trucks
Nah, I’ll still judge people who buy giant gas guzzling trucks and don’t use them for hauling things all the time.
And not little timmy for owning that v8 mustang
Guess what? I judge him too! Believe it or not, you can judge multiple types of vehicles that people own!
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I have lately been pretty convinced that 70% of pickup drivers don’t actually need a truck but instead use it to compensate their insecurity about their small dicks and their fragile masculinity.
I can’t wait til we as a society get over shaming small dicks. I don’t have a dick but it’s cringy to me when people use “small dick” as an insult like this.
For me it’s not so much trying to insult them for having a small dick, but insulting them for caring so much about having a small dick they feel the need to compensate.
Doesn’t matter that their dick is small, just that they’re so insecure about it they need to try and tell the world it’s not true.
Well, you’re not exactly contributing to a world where that insecurity is eliminated. And besides, you’ll never win an emotional debate with rational arguments.
For me it’s not so much trying to insult them for having a small dick, but insulting them for caring so much about having a small dick they feel the need to compensate.
It’s very weird that you care so much about the size of other men’s penis. It’s equally weird that you care what someone else drives.
Are we at a point in society where we can no longer do anything as long as some internet keyboard warrior doesn’t think we should?
Two male apes park next to each other:
“You don’t fit into the sociocultural group I’m a part of, AKA THE BEST GROUP, because you are not sending the right social signals! Therefore YOU ARE NOT A VERILE MATE FOR THE HOMINID FEMALES!”
“NO! CLEARLY IT IS YOU WHO WILL NOT SEED THE NEXT GENERATION OF OFFSPRING! Based on all the information I’ve gotten about appropriate social signals for my gender, age, ethnicity, cult, location and socioeconomic status, I am displaying the appropriate signals! So I shall point at you and say WEIRD!”
It’s not about actual small dicks, it’s just a symbol for insecure men
Well, I kind of agree with you, but also what I intended to say is that I think most pick up drivers don’t feel masculine enough, whether it’s due to a small dick or something else making them feel like they aren’t “real men”, so they compensate their insecurity by driving unnecessarily large cars.
Yeah, I maybe should have left the dick part out. A man can have a small penis and still not be insecure, and a man with a huge one can still be insecure about their masculinity and try to fix that insecurity with a stupid truck.
We’ll get over it when egos and genetalia lose any correlation.
Not that soon, I’m afraid.
Absolutely. All you have to ask is why they need to own a truck and they instantly get overly defensive. I’m not saying there aren’t cases where you need to own truck but the vast majority of cases people bring up don’t even require a truck much less owning one.
Let’s just get inspired by oats jenkins and his idea for redoing the traffic system and add a truck license, and you’ll have to renew it every six months, just so they don’t keep it forever
The license would be given to people that have genuine need for a vehicle like this, and don’t have access to one (so if your job gives you a truck you can have it, it would have the job license on it, but then you cannot have your own license)
Otherwise they would just tell you to go fuck yourself because you don’t need a truck like this
I live in Europe where trucks are fairly rare but you still see large SUVs, 4x4s and vans around. My own feeling is that certain classes of vehicles should be considered commercial for the purposes of insurance, taxation, VAT, inspection, tolls, permitted usage and everything else. The legislation already exists for commercial vehicles so extend it to these kind of vehicles.
So is someone must have a stupidly oversized vehicle purely for personal reasons they can enjoy all the bullshit and restrictions that goes with it. Doesn’t stop them complying but making it more onerous to do it will take demand for these vehicles off the market entirely.
I agree, I think we could even go further and make vehicles of a certain size use cargo lanes on the highway.
My wife is European and lives in the US and she thinks the fact that giant SUVs and trucks can have such a vast size differential to compact cars, so that she is eye-level with their bumper, and that both use the same license and same lanes, is incredibly dangerous.
My wife insisted on getting an SUV for her car. It’s a hybrid, but it’s still an SUV. I really wish she hadn’t gotten it. It’s too big for me, I won’t drive it. I can’t tell her what to do with her money, but I didn’t like that she got it.
But why?
She says she likes being higher off the ground and feels safer in a big car. I’m completely the opposite.
Someone I work with has never not owned a truck, mostly because “they don’t need the hassle of renting one when they need to do yardwork and buy a fridge from the store” or something.
So spending an extra $20,000-$30,000 every 10 years is totally worth those occasional trips and avoiding renting a tailer/pickup from home Depot maybe twice a year.
The $1,400 it cost me to buy a 5x10 utility trailer was money well spent. It has easily paid for itself over the years. I sold my last pickup years ago. If I need to use the trailer, it takes 5 minutes to hook it up. Having space to store it and a legit need for it are key factors here as well.
Well at that price I’d argue it’s pretty reasonable, comparable to a used Toyota.
The pick up trucks I see on sale are closer to 60-80k.
An extra $20-$30k, as in instead of a $30,000-$40,000 car or SUV they get a $60-$80k truck
Its a mystery how some of these people are broke af and how they would be more wealthy if they invested the cash in better stuff than blowing it all on impulsive purchases, lottery, and eating out.
You fools! They’ll have to move some furniture 5 years from now then who’ll be laughing!!!
The small business doing the hauling, because the truck owner won’t risk scratching the bed of their lovely pickup.
Also, with large vehicles more generally, there’s this awful snowball effect where people go “I get to sit up high and it’s bigger, so I feel safer! Besides, when I’m in a regular car I feel like I’m going to get crushed like a beer can.”
This of course ignores that:
- Pedestrians are fucked
- With everyone buying bigger, heavier vehicles, the energy involved in most collisions is significantly greater and I doubt anyone’s much safer for it. People in smaller cars just get screwed.
Also it’s an arms race. They feel safer because they’re comparatively above smaller cars, but then when everyone is riding tall trucks that additional feeling of safety becomes moot as you no longer have the additional height/visibility over everyone else.
And conversely, the reason they feel less safe in smaller cars is because of the comparison to larger cars on the road. They aren’t solving anything in a larger vehicle, they’re just perpetuating onto others what gave them small-vehicle anxiety in the first place.
The whole concept is stupid, basically.
I have a truck to haul things. Trash, lumber, kayaks, bikes, and I’ve moved friends and family members at least 6 times. It’s a 1995 and it spends most of its time parked though, it’s not a daily driver. And I really dislike all the tall and massive trucks now. I want a bed that’s actually low enough to be accessible.
70%
That seems low.
I have one because I’m 6’ 7" and I don’t fit comfortably in much. One of my managers is super small, but drives a lifted Ram. I have yet to see him get into it but it must be funny to see.
I don’t even drive any vehicles. What’s that supposed to mean?
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Btdt on the bicycle.
I only need a truck to haul stuff a few times a month. But that’s often enough.
Did you at least buy a smaller truck with the same bed size? or a van?
I drove smaller trucks for about 20 years. I actually just got a small cargo van (NV200), but still have my Colorado after the dealership offered me $100 in trade-in.
You can just say fragile masculinity without the body shaming
I have a pickup. My wife says she likes my penis size. I question your hypothesis. Today, I used it to haul fire wood and tow a broken down ATV. Yesterday, I brought kayaks up to my family cabin. It gets used. Pre-COVID, it was part of the first leg of my commute. I’m not going to have a separate vehicle just to drive to the train station. That’s absurd.
Lol not only do you have poor reading comprehension, you have also failed to get anyone to believe what you just said. If i may provide some advice, if someone say something on the Internet that doesn’t apply to you you do not have to get offened by it. Have a nice day friend.
You:
you have poor reading comprehension
Also you:
if someone say something on the internet… you do not have to get offened.
I don’t like trucker hate. Owning the most popular vehicle in the US doesn’t make people compensators. It makes them practical.
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Hauling firewood and towing an ATV with your penis is quite impressive. I think it’s more proper to call it the third leg of your commute, though.
People who need a pickup truck to haul their humungous penis are few and far between
I want a pickup truck because they are very aestetichally pleasing to me
People can down vote you, but they can’t argue with this.
You must be the only pickup driver in existence that’s figured out that all your pathetic justifications can be debated, but your opinion on what you want cannot be.
Sure it can. A large vehicle is more likely to kill someone outside of the car. So, by unnecessarily choosing to purchase a large vehicle, you are needlessly increasing the chance of killing someone else.
Not to mention the climate impacts.
To be clear, the fact that you want a pick up truck can’t be debated, but whether you should be allowed to purchase one and use it on a public roadway, solely because of your desire to have one- is another thing.
they can’t argue with this.
Yes I can. For the same reason I would argue against someone saying they want a faulty muffler because the sound is very aesthetically pleasing to them. Your sense of beauty doesn’t come at the expense of everyone else.
I’m the same, i like the way my truck looks. Is it great these days? Nope it’s an old 08 with a little rust, ok a lot but hush, i love it anyway. Do i need a truck 97% of the time? Nope but that 3% of the time i do its amazing. And those people i pull out of random ditches in the winter will appreciate it I’m sure.
My cousin has a pickup and I won’t lie, it’s very handy to have one truck you can use in the family. He’s made ramps that fit his truck perfectly, makes loading and unloading furniture from it a breeze. He’s added hooks for snatch blocks, I swear he can tie down literally anything. We wouldn’t have that if we rented because the truck would be different every time. He’s probably moving someone in the extended family once a month. Granted he owns his own contracting company so he uses it daily. That all said there is value in a few generous people having trucks around. Emphasis on the few, especially in urban areas.
I am that uncle. I’m just doing what I have to to survive.
If I could buy a new car I would. I’d get an electric, self-driving pleasure machine, but no way I can afford it.
Maybe when this thing breaks down (it’s already 15 yrs old).
No problem with that. I think the meme is referring to people who spent 100k on outlandishly large and glitzy trucks to spend 100% of their lives on paved suburban streets.
Complete with lift kit doing 98 on the freeway
Dont forget to tailgate then hang next to the car you were tailgating for a few moments before flying past you just to end up at the same stop light down the road.
All while never looking up from the phone.
I’m a school bus driver and many of my fellow drivers talk or surf on their phones while driving fucking kids around. It’s illegal and every moment on our buses is recorded (audio and video) but somehow nothing is said or done about this by the people in charge.
There’s likely already a shortage of drivers and they can’t get more because they don’t pay enough. Blow the whistle. It’ll end up getting you paid more if you can stay secret. If not, they’ll fire you and you can sue and get paid A LOT more.
I imagine they’ll do something once a bus full of kids drives into a river or off a bridge.
“Bro you won’t believe this idiot on the highway who wouldn’t get out of the way of my truck”
My sister in-law? Broke as fuck, came across a windfall from an accident that never came up before, spent more than a third of it on… a fucking F-150 platinum. Still deep in debt, living in low income housing, doesn’t have a job.
She won’t have a truck soon, either.
They don’t get it. They won’t get it, until they get it.
Never gonna get it, never gonna get it.
Never gonna get it… WOOT woot whoot woouhoouhoo.
This is completely understandable. The solution isn’t another car, it’s better city planning and public transit.
You could switch to a small cheap sedan
It’s a gamble to get a used car you know nothing about when you have a truck you know is at least a bit reliable. My family grew up playing used car roulette and it’s pretty damn hard to come out ahead in this scenario. Best to run the thing until it dies while saving up for a new or like new vehicle.
Picking the right used car is important, my 2008 civic I got in 2018 is still chugging
Makes completely sense to drive your car to the tomb. I live in Europe and try my best to dodge European cars. I’ve been lucky with my used Prius since 2014, aiming at keeping it as long as possible
Learn about cars first and it isn’t a gamble.
I know a ton about cars, but short of taking the motor apart there’s only so much you can glean from a drive and quick once over.
Then you don’t know cars as well as you say you do, because you can check for a whole lot more than that without pulling the engine lmao. Maybe stick to the dealership if you don’t feel like you can effectively evaluate it’s condition.
Switching costs money. From what he said money might be tight. I buy and sell my own vehicles. It is a job. Most prefer to give up a few grand to not have to do it (you never get paid full market value on a trade in). Even if someone decided to do it themselves they run the risk of losing big time if they’re inexperienced. Even though I’ve been doing it for years even I lose on some of these. When I lose, it’s usually close to the cost of the vehicle. I can afford that and in the end I average out really well.But the majority of people can’t do that. I get all the hate new big trucks get and I agree. As someone who works in construction I wish station wagons would make a come back. But it’s really easy to say “just do x y or z” it’s not so easy to do.
I get your feeling. It’s a shame the market is built so that people buy more and more useless guga-trucks while most people would do perfectly well with a small family car.
A motorcycle is cheap, fuel-efficient, and fun.
And totally not safe for everyday driving to me. Even if the biker himself is a good one ,dumbass right next to him might crush him any second
Yeah even in just local traffic, your body really doesn’t do well against a jarring 30mph throw or tons of solid steel pressing up against you. I’ve thought about buying a cheap motorcycle to go to the stores near me for awhile (Yes, I’m in the US. Yes, there’s no public transportation. Yes, I own a car) but honestly seeing drivers around me just driving my car once a week makes me not want to do it
My brother was riding his motorbike when a car turned across his path having not seen him, he was doing 30mph and was launched off the bike, flew over the car, and landed directly on his elbow.
9 hours of surgery rebuilding his arm and now it’s half metal and has about 30-45 degrees of movement. There was serious talk about amputation early on so he kinda got lucky (also lucky to land on an arm rather than his head obviously!)
Motorbikes may be fun and economical but fuck driving them around other cars, eventually you’ll run into a bad driver and if you’re unlucky that could be the end for you.
I have one. It also sucks to ride for an hour, you’re eaither sweating, freezing or some other form of uncomfortable.
I got a used bolt for ~12k recently. It’s definitely more than a gas gar, but not astronomically more.
I’d get an electric, self-driving pleasure machine, but no way I can afford it.
Just get a bicycle already! Thinking your only other option is an “electric, self-driving pleasure machine” is such a false dichotomy.
With the way most cities are designed, a bicycle is not a safe option for day to day transportation for most people.
Or get yourself a nice plug-in hybrid… E-bike
Yeah, I’m not going to spend 6 hours driving a bicycle to work and back.
The parking lot at work is filled huge pickup trucks, while the inside of the building is filled with tiny penises.
We need to find a new way to hate on stupid vehicles without body shaming.
The guys with small dicks never did anything wrong. I’m sure some of those truck drivers have massive cannons the diameter of a coke can, but that doesn’t excuse their stupid wasteful vanity machines.
Guys with pointlessly big trucks have sexual hangups relating to their parental figures. Boom.
Slaps roof
“This baby can fit so many of my father’s hugs in it, but it won’t because he left my mother and I, and although I had to live with him and my stepmom from ages 13 to 18 due to my behavioral issues, I can’t bare the thought that I’m anything like him and that my mother began drinking to numb the pain of having to raise me alone, so I find solace in lashing out against women that treat me well, and will stop at nothing until I can repeat the generational cycle by having a baby with a woman that looks and acts like my mother so I too can abandon my child, because I hate myself.”
There’s someone at my work that owns a huge truck and they park at a turning corner inside the garage every single day. The garage is already cramped as it is, and then you’ve got a huge truck blocking off visibility when you turn the corner.
This shit happens in the parking garage I use too and it amazes me. I drive a small sedan and I refuse to park in those spots bc I’m terrified some idiot will sideswipe me (I have actually seen this happen to other vehicles). I can only imagine it’s some sort of flex bc people have to avoid their oversized tiny-penismobile.
We have communal showers at work and I have seen the guy with the biggest truck in the company in the showers. I can confirm the tiny penis.
20,000 miles??? Good god get a closer job
I hate having to almost circumnavigate the Earth for my commute!
The job is only a few kms away, the boss just likes taking the scenic route
I’m not getting the major picture here…
This is literally half of all Canadian men. Probably similar in the US.
I can’t afford 3 cars.
You can rent a pickup for something like $20/day as needed. Or, just keep an old junker pickup around. But, renting as needed would be the cheapest option for most people.
I feel like a pretty good vehicle for a lot of people like that who need a truck sometimes and don’t want a second vehicle could be one of the new small diesel trucks, like the ram ecodiesel. 30mpg is more than even most compact SUVs get, it’s still a truck for people that like that, and it can haul/tow more than a compact suv as well.
A big problem with 2 vehicles instead of 1 is often that insurance costs so much more, even if you’re driving the same number of miles as when you had 1 vehicle. Registration fees too.
one of the new small diesel trucks
There is no such thing.
This is what a small diesel truck looks like:
Nothing like it is made anymore, at least not for the US market.
Yeah, it would be nice if those were still made.
There’s an EV ute-sized truck I saw going for sale soon in the EU and I want it so badly here in the US
Don’t need a big pickup truck by any means, but I DO need something that can haul a couple hay bales 10 miles every few weeks or so and tow something in a pinch
Currently I just manage with my Leaf cuz fuck paying for gas, but the market is def there as I’m not the only one in my area that would love it
Full BEV maverick please. Ford, you’re soooooo close.
A Ram EcoDiesel was still a full sized truck, the Maverick is the logical option, hopefully they release an AWD hybrid version…
I bought the Santa Cruz, and I love it. 28mpg city and 35 highway, and I can still pull 3500lb.
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If you can get ahold of a maverick hybrid at msrp, there’s that. But it’s limited to 2,000 lbs. the ecoboost with towing can do 4,000 but then you’re right back in the same spot as the Hyundai minus the theft issue lol.
It’s rated at 22 city 26 hwy, do you really get that much?
The super short bed looks a little less than useful but I do like the idea of an actually small truck because every truck these days is monstrosly large.
Yup, but it mostly depends on the road inclination. If there’s a lot of uphill it’s more like 26/30.
And the bed is pretty useful, especially with the tourneau cover you can get. I did end up getting a bed extender to let me carry stuff like plywood sheets.
How’s the legroom in the second row? I love the aesthetic of the Santa Cruz and that it’s not an obnoxiously large truck while still capable of hauling and towing stuff. I did notice that the space inside looks pretty tight.
It’s really not bad. I’ve had people sit behind me (6’3") comfortably. It’s actually the first vehicle I’ve driven where I had to scoot the seat up a bit.
I’m pretty sure it’s just the Tuscon with a truck bed instead of a trunk.
Honestly, a trailer is sufficient.
If you need a truck sometimes just get a MPV. Citroen Berlingo in XL version has 850 liters of cargos pace. The biggest Ford Raner has 1050 liters. If someone thinks they will actually carry things in their pick up I can’t fit in my Berlingo they live in a fantasy land.
The dumbest thing I see is people using SUVs as family cars. MPV will be cheaper and 100x more practical for this. But people don’t buy tracks and SUVs for practicality. They buy them for looks and to brag.
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I keep my paid off subie around, but I do like driving the camp converted van around because I can just sit and relax without having to go all the way home.
Awesome, sounds like fun! I love seeing those
I’m getting old and am a whitewater kayaker. You have to go where the water is which means a lot of long road trips and long weekends. Setting up and tearing down camp constantly wears you down. Now I pull in. Sleep. Can drive part way and sleep at a truck stop. Much nicer. Mine has the bed over the garage so bikes and snowboards can just live there all the time too. Most creek and freestyle boats fit inside too until I get around to putting the racks on. Then I’ll also have an awning and solar.
Nice username :P
I’m guessing the title is hyperbole but it’s still kinda ridiculous even for hyperbole lol.
Nope… we were chatting and I was saying it’s nuts that 80$ to fill my suv… He then responded its 80$ for him to go to work and back… So he may be exaggerating but I’m just passing the message…
Bragging about how bad their gas mileage seems like the redneck’s version of inserting vacation and cruise stories into conversations
Your assumption is true.
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He might wanna see a mechanic because a vehicle, even a truck, should only cost 80 bucks for a trip like that if it’s leaking gas the whole way.
Unfortunately, I see it pretty much everywhere.
$80
20km
🤔
Canada?
Heck, most countries that use dollars use metric!
Some Americans in the science community also use metric almost all the time
I use metric when ever I’m using a cad software Purely out of spite
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/mapswithoutNewZealand
They didn’t say dollarydoos
New Zealand isn’t Australia. Yet.
What fucking hell hole do you live that it costs $80 to drive 12 miles? At $10 USD a gallon that’s like 1 mpg.
at the current price of gasoline in the Netherlands (about 7,50 per gallon) it’s just a inefficient truck.
Naw, it’s just a bullshit number. A large truck driven in poor conditions for fuel efficiency will still get 12-13mpg.
No. It’s made up fantasy land propaganda that gets eaten up. This is 5th grade math and could be easily identified as bullshit with a passing glance.
When they have to exaggerate to make their point, they don’t have a point.
