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    As a reminder, you can always just uninstall OneDrive and call it a day.

    Until Microsoft takes that option away as well…

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        They never reinstalled OneDrive after an update… yet

        (I hate how I have to uninstall useless shit after updates)

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      I did that and it was a mess, with warnings about being unable to backup that I couldn’t get rid of. I had to reinstall to try to turn off syncing, then remove again. But it’s so integrated that my desktop is still under a OneDrive subfolder and it’s still referenced in various places.

      Is there a guide to completely removing this from Windows 11 cleanly?

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          No idea but, after a quick search to learn what this is, I’m not sure how it would help were it to be an option.

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            You can disable so-called essential components and I believe it ships without almost any of the bloat. So essentially you could just take one drive out, or not have it in the first place. Or at least that’s my hope

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      Yeah, it’s also not “just” if it’s one of what feels like hundreds of steps now to make the OS somewhat usable.

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    Isn’t apple doing the same?

    Designed to fill the 5gb immediately so you’re going to buy more cloud space immediately

    When I had an iPhone, there was an annoying red dot on the settings icon “warning, you didn’t enable cloud backups for photos”, and if you enabled it become an annoying red dot “warning you ran out of iCloud space”

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      There’s always the option to store things locally. You want to get fancy, you can set up a NAS for remote access.

      Saying “isn’t X also doing Y” implies the behaviour itself isn’t the problem, when it is. Doesn’t matter who’s using dark patterns for rent-seeking; it matters that we’ve normalized it.

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    Isn’t the entire point of the newer versions of Windows just to force the engagement with applications you normally wouldn’t use?

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    Pretty sure later updates for Windows 10 started doing this too, or at least it did on my PC.

    Had to completely uninstall OneDrive to get it to stop - which Microsoft sure do make quite difficult to do.

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    Doesn’t Windows 10 already do that? I could never get the freaking thing to leave my files behind and disable itself.

    Windows 10 LTSC for the win if you have software you can’t yet abandon.

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    devil’s advocate: this will save the vast majority of user (which are completely tech illiterate) from loosing their most important data

    lets be real, none of them will use a private or foss backup solution any time soon.

    I’d rather not they loose their important family photos for that oh so horrible crime of offending my privacy nerd sensibilities

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      Actually, my father in law just lost 3 months of work yesterday because he synced his documents folder that had an old copy of his book on OneDrive. None of the cached files had his new stuff. Maybe if OneDrive was made well, it would prevent data loss.

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      Counterpoint: My sibling had their goddamn desktop ransomewared by this thing when they dared to uninstall it. It isn’t privacy nerd sensabilities, Windows now behaves like malware under certain opaque conditions and at unpredictable intervals. This was four years ago on Win 10. How great do you think non savvy people are about clicking things they don’t understand anyway and essentially springing a trap?

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      The problem is that they are not actively asking permission.

      They are technically legally asking permission through the EULA, but nobody reads these.

      Apple do this differently, they require the user to opt in for each of their services, and except for a pitiful amount of storage, the user has to pay for a useful amount of storage. This makes the user the customer, instead of the product. They could make it easier to roll-your-own “cloud” storage by NAS, but I assume that it isn’t worth their effort.

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    I already have one drive. It’s installed in my PC. Why would I need another?

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    I was in court the other day and it turns out that while they send us the evidence videos encrypted (and never give us the right password), the government’s lawyer had it all on onedrive 🫠