- cross-posted to:
- 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
- cross-posted to:
- 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
edit: As I’m seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team, and will be holding the community to the same standards. the same things that were always allowed will continue to be allowed and the same things that got things removed before will continue to get things removed before. Lemmy.world admins have agreed to allow us to run our community on our terms.
It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board.
FAQ:
Why?
That’s a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada’s excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, we have had ongoing issues with federation and moderation that has caused a subpar experience for many people on other instances.
How does this work?
Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed.
What about the posts?
Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world’s federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won’t be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled.
As for the posts on lemmy.world’s 196, we’re leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I’LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM.
Once again, here’s the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: !196@lemmy.world)
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Please don’t. Like really, or make your own new community. It being on blahaj zone is good
Who defederates from blåhaj? Why? As far as I can see it’s just a queer instance only bigots would defederate.
The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada’s excellent team of admins
Can you expand on this? It’s not really clear to me why you’re making this move.
The combination of not involving the community in the decision, only providing a vague reason and locking the original community really rubs me the wrong way.
I have no idea why u thought people would be fine with any of this, this leaves 200% clear that u dont even know the community u moderate
u guys should mod a community on lemmy.world if they share ur values more but don’t steal our community
we aren’t stealing your community. the people who built and facilitated this community are the people who are migrating this community.
I thought we left that attitude on Reddit, that’s a really disappointing and insulting take. The community is the community, not a handful of moderators. We’re grateful for the work y’all are doing, but, and I really don’t intend this as an insult, moderators are replaceable.
Yeah you are lmao because we can’t post here anymore. Unlocking it would be a step towards “unstealing” it.
Setting aside what an awful & insulting response this (the community is the community, that’s why the word exists. Moderators are not the community)…
If you really believe this, then why lock the existing one? Obviously your well planned & executed move will be wildly successful, so there should be no need to lock the existing one. Unless of course 8 people who do caretaker duties on the community are in fact NOT the community, the people are and you need them, even if you don’t respect their opinions or contributions.
So the community never belonged to the users, it was only the mods’ ?
In that case then why even announce anything? Apparently it’s your community and you can do what you like with it, you take your ball and go home. I assume that means you’ll be making and posting all the content there yourself?
Hey so im just a lurker but im really worried about this move:
We all know Meta just allowed all sorts of vile anti lgbt posting on their platform so how do we know .world isn’t going that way?
You said you have a line to the top admin, is that Ruud who wants to federate with Threads, a Meta product that will allow transphobia against community members?
“Communities should not be overly moderated in order to enforce a specific narrative. Respectful disagreement should be allowed in a smaller proportion to the established narrative” - LW admins
Especially concerning since they are forcing communities to allow dissent, just like Meta, so TERFs can just roll up in this community and you have to allow them?
Good point, I even forgot about that
Sad. Pretty sure beehaw is defederated from world.
It is
with many communities creating their own 196es.
Wow that’s terrible, can anyone link some of those 196’s so I can block them?
Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.
Rule: You must post before you leave.
OK, we saw your post. You can leave now.
It’s pretty clear what the community consensus here is.
You can leave, and start a new 196 community wherever you like. Leave this one as is, and people can choose to follow one, both or neither.
Locking it here is very hostile to the community and a categorically bad move. I hope the instance admins can step in, remove the mods and unlock the community.
I want to add my voice to the others asking for tranfering to a new mod team. You don’t have to kill the community, let people who want it on blahaj.zone keep using it. The worst that can happen is the quality of posts being lower.
Exactly. Not letting the community have a say in what happens to the community is a dick move.
Please leave the community to someone else. We don’t federate world and I like this community and so far Ada seems to be a good admin. You can still make 196 on world without destroying this one.
This move is going to make the community a lot less welcoming to queer folk, by virtue of being on .world alone. I don’t know what rift between Ada and you let to that decision, but I think it’s a big mistake. It feels especially bad for us members of this community not being involved in the decision making process at all, all the more if this has truly been “months in the making”.
With that said: I strongly implore you to not lock down the community, and instead let a new mod team take over. Not having centralized decisions and power tripping mods is one of the big hopes I had for the fediverse, and this… feels really bad. It’s not a bad thing to have several similar communities on different instances! Please don’t destroy this one over personal grievances
Time to make /196part two on Blahaj I guess.
or we could get new moderators to ask for control of this comm
Even better.
Let’s wait a couple of days until tempers cool a bit, maybe moss+team will see reason and step down, otherwise we can ask Ada to transfer the community to someone else
One day should be enough, members should act when there’s still momentum
Good point.
You people should just get back the original one
