• merc@sh.itjust.works
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    This is just another reminder how weird a centaur is as a concept. Vertebrates don’t have more than 4 limbs. Land vertebrates mostly have 4 legs, but the structure of their forelegs is very similar to human arms and wrists. Bats have wings, but their wings are basically arms with a membrane of skin between the bones. Even a Naga (human / snake hybrid) makes more sense than a centaur.

    Also, think how unbalanced a centaur would be. Instead of a trunk that merely has to support a neck and a head, a centaur has to support a full half-human right at the front of its body. That would shift the centre of mass way forward, so most of the weight would be on the middle limbs. That would affect its ability to gallop, because in a gallop most of the running power of a horse comes from the back legs. If the back legs are almost completely unloaded because all the weight is at the front, the back legs wouldn’t be able to push with much force.

    A more realistic centaur would have the trunk weight shifted backwards, so instead of having a human torso replacing its neck and head, it would be like a rider on a horse but without the rider’s legs or the horse’s head.

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      Fun fact, horse heads/necks weigh about as much as human torsos do. Depending on the horse, and the human.

      Modern horses are fuckin huge. It’s not unreasonable to think that a horse body could support a human upper body without much additional musculature.

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        That just raises the question about how big a human torso would be mounted on a modern horse’s torso. A huge clydesdale mare with a typical jockey’s torso would look pretty ridiculous. But, maybe a clydesdale-type-centaur would have an Andre-the-giant torso, or maybe something even bigger. Maybe it would be a humanoid torso which, if it had legs, would stand 4m tall.

        But, even if it is an Andre the Giant head, imagine how much grass he’s going to have to eat to keep his body fed. Andre has a big mouth compared to me, but it’s still small compared to a horse.

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      A human torso’s weight would be almost inconsequential compared to a whole ass horse body, not to mention the human part has abs and shit and will be coordinating with the horse part, cause it’s all one creature. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a ridiculous creature, I just think it could theoretically work

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    I would be holding on to my dick and balls so they don’t smack me in the asshole every gallop.

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    Centaurs (and other *taur types. Looking at you, furries) are overall an incredibly dumb design.

    The more you think about them, the more they just don’t work. I went from meh, to dislike, to hate for centaurs over the years.

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      The more you think about them, the more they just don’t work.

      Wait till you get into the math of <insert any mythological creature with wings>.

      A Pegasus, if it were to fly in the same way as a bird, would require extremely large wings relative to its body size, likely much larger than commonly depicted. Calculations suggest a wingspan of at least 30 meters (about 100 feet) for a horse-sized creature. This is due to the constraints of the square-cube law and the need for sufficient lift to support the horse’s weight.

      A study of dragons from movies and video games suggests they would need to fly much faster or have wings 45 times larger to stay aloft.

      Don’t even get me started on Sphinxes and Manticores.

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        Several fantasies just give em required secondary powers. Griffins use wind magic. Dragons use some form of antigravity or flight magic.

        Iirc in Stormlight, the … gigafauna?(Googles and finds it has been cooked for how I want to use it…huh) have gems in them that allows em to sorta reduce gravity in order for them to be able to survive at such a size (the planet also has lower gravity than earth,at 0.7G)

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          Sure sure sure. But if we’re running back to the “shut up, it’s magic” premise, centaurs (and mermaids and owlbears) don’t seem so weird, either

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        That’s why I like my winged mythical creatures with really big wings.

        Sphinxes are bad, but still not as bad as centaurs, as Sphinxes don’t have an entire additional body attached to their body.

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        That is why I like unicorns. when they fly, nobody starts calculating. Everybody just accepts the magic

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          I’m a sci-fi guy. I can accept that whatever force is causing the unicorn to fly is one that I haven’t measured or studied yet.

          Any sufficiently understood magic is indistinguishable from science.

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        For the pegasus, are they factoring in possibilities like having hollow bones like birds do to reduce weight? Granted, that would severely hamper their abilities to be a horse, but maybe they’re not supposed to be beasts of burden?

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      By that description, I imagine a centaur walking like a chicken.

      It’s my failure, not yours.

      I might need to make chicken-centaurs in my game. Comical at first until you realize they’re raptors.

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        oh no not a 4 legged, hooved, larger utahraptor

        does the horse part have fur and the raptor part have feathers or does one of them just take over the other?

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          Totally valid question.

          I’m picturing it as a six-limbed owlbear that is slightly humanoid… so it’s a clusterfuck hybrid.