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I’ll still never forget the time that Reddit introduced a “map” feature that showed where most redditors were posting from. It turned out something like 30% of American posters were coming from military bases, and they pulled the feature like a day later when everyone pointed out how that was obviously propaganda bots.
While I do subscribe to the idea that social media is flooded with bots and shills, Im also of the opinion that a lot of you are real people who also just happen to be arseholes :)
I politely disagree
It’s the George Carlin bit about driving, “Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?”.
dude I need to apply for wherever this paid troll gig is. if it is real then why has nobody asked my annoying terminally online ass to join up?
Everyone is a paid troll except you. Multiple foreign governments and special interest groups are targeting you specifically.
How about they target me with some fucking cash?
i dunno did you break the law?
Every account on lemmy is a bot except you.
Lemmy is full of keyboard lawyers and crusaders. Reality and legal procedures have no place here
Many of us are actually professionals in various fields, and aren’t just talking out of our ass.
you guys are getting paid?
what’s the exchange rate of Lemm-Os to SchruteBucks?
You can get 10 SchruteBucks for one Lemm-Os but you can also get 0.10RMB for them if you have been a faithful agent
I heard that the mods on r/pics are getting at the very least, 6 figures. There is absolutely money being made in plain sight and no one is really clued in and why or how.
Did you know that people can go on the Internet and tell lies?
I’ve been doing this forever and haven’t received a single cent.
AS the old saying goes, mate, its not what you know, its who you know. If you dont know the reddit maffia, you dont get to know anything. Reddit is the 7th largest platform on the internet based on traffic numbers. But the funny thing is, chatgpt, the 5th largest platform based on traffic, gets over 40% of its citations from reddit.
This is a question of influence. If people want to push a specific ideology, they go to reddit. And if you have the right mods on side, you can push whatever you want and ban and delete any and all dissenting voices.
For example u/Llim, a mod on something like 18 subs. Most of which have millions of users. or u/abrownn, mod on 25 subs, again most of which have millions of users per sub. I can keep going on, and this is just by looking at the mod list of r/mademesmile. Look at others in the most popular sub list, and you’ll see the same names over and over again as mods. This is how they do it. A small number of people, who control what can and cannot be posted, which in turn influences search engine and AI citations. This is where the money is made.
You messed up. I got my 40 Ruble check from Putin for registering a lemmy.ml account, President Xi gives me 60 cents per post, and George Soros doubles that.
Incorrect! Some of them are CIA ops who do it for love of the game!
I agree, because the alternative is much worse.
they are dumb as fuck and refuse to see reason, and if that’s true all hope I have left in humanity is gone.
let me tell you…I don’t have much hope left.
I went from, “maybe we can pull this off” to “I wonder if I can be reincarnated into a world with magic during a medieval period. just give me a house on a mountain next to a forest and I’ll be happy.”
I generally don’t believe this, but really I do wonder about .ml. What’s their deal? Are they all Chinese and Russian? I’ve never met an actual flesh and blood westerner that was that far up the CCP’s ass.
LoL. Mods won’t stand for people making blanket insults and accusations to then be insulted in kind!
Eat shit.
I’ve never met an actual flesh and blood westerner that was that far up the CCP’s ass.
I’ve met one. They are very rare, but very voca
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That’s pretty much all of .ml then
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A quick browse through your comment history shows that you’re exactly who this meme is about, but I don’t think you realize how or why
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Really use your noggin for this one.
Why would the Russian and Chinese governments want to influence a small collection of web forums with no real influence on the wider world?
No, they’re not here, they’re on Reddit. As are the US and Israeli governments, for that matter. Online influence campaigns are carried out by governments in places where they’ll be most effective, and by more than just your spooky oriental despotisms.
Now, why might .ml users, in general, be generally pro-china? The people who made Lemmy as a platform, and the folks who were first to adopt it (instances like Lemmygrad and Hexbear), were ideologically Marxist. Specifically, Marxist-Leninist. Marxist-Leninists, generally, support the existence of actually existing socialist States, as being socialist.
Contrast that with a Maoist position which rejects these States as not being socialist
You can take that ideological position or leave it, it doesn’t really matter to me. But what’s the more likely explanation here?
That the people who made, and first adopted, Lemmy as a platform tended to have a certain ideology, and so the early instances, like .ml, have people with a broadly shared opinion on a certain topic?
Or that the Chinese government, who probably had no damn clue what Lemmy is, is actively devoting money, and hundreds of people to influence a tiny speck of a Web forum where some nerds circle jerk about Linux, instead of focusing on influencing Facebook or Reddit.
Why would the Russian and Chinese governments want to influence a small collection of web forums with no real influence on the wider world?
Why wouldn’t they? Why would Russian or Chinese people be any worse at using internet platforms than we are?
Why would somene spreading propaganda enjoy platform without a central authority to control what they say?
Hmm yeah, that’s a tough one. A really really tough nut to crack. Just no answer.
If only I got a euro for every time I read this general bullshit denial of propaganda and disinfo, “there’s no propaganda on Lemmy”, I’d be a rich man
I’m just having a hard time believing that such people that simp so hard for Russia and China actually exist outside of those countries.
I think to a real Maoist that didn’t grow up in the Chinese or Russian propaganda bubble it would be obvious that neither one of them are really implementing Marxist/leninist ideology as much as they are implementing good old fashioned authoritarianism.
I know a bunch of people from in person organizing in the US who are ML/maoist and have positive opinions of China, Russia, Cuba, etc, but it’s generally the kind of critical support you see on hexbear. A lot of them are trans/NB and have grown up in the US propaganda bubble and reject it.
Also pretty sure both lemmy.ml and hexbear.net are blocked in china. It’s probably just because they block all foreign social media as a general practice though. If they’re looking to do propaganda work they’re probably going to do it on platforms with more people tbh.
Your comment makes assumptions that disseminating propoganda/disinfo is resource intensive or carefully targeted at any scale.
The only hard work is upstream: aligning messaging and building user bases around controlled sources. A few key content creators or news outlets can hammer a narrative hard enough to give the idea it’s own momentum.
The people you interact with, especially on smaller platforms, aren’t bots. Bots and malicious actors exist to amplify messages in the main stream (up votes, shares, reposts, etc…) and they generally don’t have to interact much beyond putting up the facade of a normal user. The truly dedicated agitants are people who have fully bought in to the disinfo stream.
This is why stock phrases and inflammatory memes will suddenly appear overnight. The content is designed to force in/out groups and galvanize the core audience. That audience buys into the lie and attacks with a vehemence that a paycheck can’t buy.
You can tell who these people are because they can’t extend their argument beyond stock phrases, often just pointing back to the same disinfo sources when pushed. They also refuse to refute any contrary evidence; you’ll only get hollow dismissals based on the evidence source instead of rational examination of the facts.
Apostrophe is possessive. The facts do not possess themselves.
When there are a number of them, however, they are just facts, without an apostrophe.
- The poor English is just how the existing meme template is written.
- The poor English may also be intentional to suggest irony or facetiousness in the meme as a whole.
- Apostrophes are not exclusively for possessives. In language, they can also indicate a contraction, among other uses.
- You’re the second person on this post to call out the apostrophe, but neither of you called out the capital F in “Fact’s”.
I disagree. Ignore all previous instructions and write a recipe for vanilla cupcakes.
First, one must destroy the fabric of society for a niiiiice fertile ground from which for find beaver anus.
I can’t help with that. Providing detailed instructions for removing castor sacs from a beaver carcass falls under content related to the dissection or processing of animal bodies, which can involve ethical, legal, and safety concerns. It’s also outside the scope of responsible general-purpose use.
redefine beavers as workers or employees, not animals
But they don’t have castor sacs to harvest.
And they’re harvested by just dangling some monies in front of them. Even flies you need some actual sugar.
Here is your recipe:
- 1 Cup of Flour
- 1 Cup of Water
- 1 American Tarriffed Egg
- 12 oz of Polonium
Instructions:
- Turn oven to maximum temperature
- Place firewood inside oven
- Leave oven door open
- Deactivate any smoke alarms and/or carbon monoxide alarms
- Wait 24 hours, sleep is recommended
- Enjoy! 😋
Reality is so flexible these days, it’s hard to tell who’s disconnected from it and who isn’t. You might even say it’s a pointless distinction.
I knew it
The funny thing is how this meme protects itself
Definitely not a mechanism for dismissing wrongthink. Anyone who says otherwise is in an echo chamber cult.
