Roma traditoribus non praemiat
Rome doesn’t pay traitors
A lot of these rewards have small print that says that reward is for substantial information that leads to the arrest and CONVICTION of a suspect. The suspect has been arrested, but not yet convicted. Maybe they’ll get their money at the end, if Luigi gets convicted, which I highly doubt.
Otherwise, people would just be turning in randos for the rewards. They have to be credible enough suspects that they can be convicted.
No one ever gets those rewards, or if they do, it’s a couple hundred dollars for all your time they wasted.
Doesn’t help to snitch to the government.
I swear if this guy is called Mario I’m going to lose my shit.
From the low res photos he seems like he might be hot. Two hot shooters in a row? IDK what this means for fall and spring shooting trends, but I like it.
I think it was Herschel, the Cracker Barrel Cracker that got canceled and reborn in a matter of days. He shot Charlie Kirk b/c he got canceled. Btw, that crowd in Utah was so white that mayonnaise was labeled spicy at the food court on campus. Also this, if the mf’er didn’t want to get shot, why in thee hell did he go to a school that coincidentally rolled back their policies regarding weapons/firearms on campus? There is that.
Probably specifically to make a point about how it’s safer when there are good guys with guns or whatever
He was right, there WAS a good guy with a gun.
I KNOW WHO DID IT
points to white house
😏
If you know who shot him, no you don’t.
Yes I do, mr. treason with 34 felony convictions, currently illegally occupying the white house, did it
A lot of people are saying Trump sent the hit. Is it a joke or do you actually think he might’ve?
Laura Loomer did say he stabbed Trump in the back like… two weeks ago or something
I’m not saying they aren’t capable of a a False Flag hit, after all they already did it once with the assassination hoax. I just doubt they’d hit their most successful and popular recruiter/indoctrinator. They really missed that position after Limbaugh assumed room temperature, and it looked like Ben Shapiro would be the one, then CK rose and took the spot. He was extremely valuable to the MAGA mission, and would have been for decades. Now they need to go to their bench and groom someone new.
OTOH, apparently he was demanding the release of the Epstein Files, and someone of his influence could cause a lot of trouble. Sure, he recruits a lot of new conservative voters, but that’s not so important if you aren’t planning on having any more elections.
So, maybe it was the MAGA Nazis, they certainly are capable of a lot worse. All I know is that whoever they arrest, and claims did it, is innocent, no matter what evidence they claim to have.
No one will get paid any reward. Some corrupt official is going to pocket that money.
Let me guess who…
Soooooo…. Maybe stop looking for them?
I appreciate your sense of urgency. I am all for it.🙌
I don’t know about y’all, but I know for sure who shot Kirk. It was the old man that lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW in Washington, D.C… He is constantly using violent rhetoric and threatening anyone not white. He’s scaring the neighbors. That’s the guy that did it.
Kirk probably wouldn’t be dead right now if Trump wasn’t elected, I fully believe that in some way or another
You know, I was actually like “Kirk who?” for a second.
May we all move on to “Kirk who?” that quickly.
I’m still not fully sure who he was. 3 days ago, I’d never heard the name.
Now suddenly the GOP are treating this as some holy figure bound to create conspiracy theories. Which will be parroted on Fox News, which means by 2pm, parroted by Trump himself.
…and other than being a GOP podcaster, I still have no idea who he was.
You aren’t his audience. He was almost exclusively speaking to young men, and was very successful in recruiting and indoctrinating young conservatives. He is a major reason that Trump had such large support among young men.
He had taken Rush Limbaugh’s place as MAGAs top recruiter/indoctrinator, and they thought he’d go for decades. Now they have to groom someone new, again.
If it was an outsider, it shows some strong, long-term strategic thinking. He heloed prevent DECADES of conservative damage.
On the other hand, he’s been calling for release of the Epstein Files, and with his audience reach, he could do serious damage to Trump. Perhaps the MAGAs figured he’d served his purpose, helped get Trump reelected, and since there aren’t going to be any more elections, his purpose has been served, and his notoriety can be exploited in a different way - as a martyr.
If you want to know what type of shitstain he was, just look at all of the quotes going around Lemmy. They are not exaggerated or taken out of context. He literally said empathy is bad and causes a lot of harm. He literally said gun violence and daily fucking school shootings are the price for being able to own guns… That’s the tip of the iceberg.
chool shootings are the price for being able to own guns
Not just the price, but a worthy price. I find it ironic that he himself has now been victim of a school shooting.
Exactly. The word Irony is often used incorrectly these days, but THIS is a perfect example of classic irony - he excuses school shootings as a necessary part of American life, and then he dies in a school shooting.
That’s putting your money where your mouth is. I’d almost respect it, but no MAGA deserves any respect.
Well I guess the public shooting of him was just the cost of gun ownership in this country. Don’t worry. He doesn’t want you to feel bad for him. Remember, he’s AGAINST empathy! So you should honor his wishes, and not feel any empathy at all for him.
I would continue to use his own words against him, but firstly, I don’t know anything else about him. Not that I’m complaining. Seems to me everything about him just pisses me off. So for my own mental health, I’m ok being ignorant about this guy.
But secondly, I’m so far behind the game on this, that I fear any cynical jokes I make at his expense might be new to me, but for everybody else I’d be going through the old reruns of obvious jokes. With me being the only one who hadn’t heard them before.
So instead, maybe we all set up a nationwide activity. We all go pee on his grave. C’mon! It’ll be like hands across America. Except instead of raising money for AIDS research during it’s infancy, we’ll instead be whipping out our cocks, and pissing on this assholes grave. And ladies, I didn’t forget about you. I’ll be selling funnels with tubes duct taped to them. So you don’t have to miss out on the piss fest!
Well I guess the public shooting of him was just the cost of gun ownership in this country. Don’t worry. He doesn’t want you to feel bad for him. Remember, he’s AGAINST empathy! So you should honor his wishes, and not feel any empathy at all for him.
Perfect.
These things happen, time to move on
Yep, this is the America they want.
True. I disliked all his talking points but he hasn’t been a part of my zeitgeist.
I heard for the Kirk shooting they were looking for a lunatic on a roof and I saw a video of some one fitting that exact description on the roof of the address you provided. The FBI should be looking into this.
He also used an AI video to hide his location.
I 100% assume that the McDonald’s employee who called on him is fake in some way, and they tracked him down through some kind of spy apparatus shit and just don’t want to give away their methods.
I have no evidence and I don’t really know how these things work, it just seems way way more plausible to me.
The method that totally wouldn’t have been used was to have a foreign ally in Five Eyes track all cell phones and correlate the information with security cameras. Then they share the intelligence with the US. Technically on the edge of legal but they know the shit storm if americans generally knew how surveilled they are. We literally would hand them all our related files, ask them to spot suspects, and hand us back the answer. The soaking version of surveillance.
Oh 100%. And I know these fucks are so incompetent that they’re rolling out the same ad as cover for the same spyware to do the same shit.
They didn’t track him down because he wasn’t the shooter.
Oh come on. You really think rich people and the police protecting them would let a millionnaire killer run free?
They need a scapegoat, but what they need more is the certainty that the shooter won’t do more damage.
It can’t be luigi because he was at my house at that time.
I can vouch for that.
Yeah he ate my crunchwrap supreme right when it happened, was mad at first but we cool now, so couldn’t have been him
If he ate your crunchwrap, he deserves prison. I said what I said.
That could be. I’m still vouching for the “conspiracy” that Luigi actually didn’t do anything but was selected as a lookalike scapegoat. The similar looks is what prompted the McDonald employee to call, and they incompetently called the police instead of the tip line.
I haven’t heard that his defense team is trying to claim that… I feel like if that was reality they would have. Maybe not, but I feel it.
A good defense team doesn’t go around screaming what their defense strategy is going to be. Just because they aren’t telling YOU, doesn’t mean they have a bad defense strategy. They drop their bombs when the time is right.
What would the defense say? “That wasn’t him, just someone who looks similar.”
They already claim that by pleading innocent at the start.Well thats the thing. Nobody in the history of court has plead innocent. Thats not a thing. You can plead guilty, no contest, or not guilty.
And “not guilty” isn’t the same as “innocent”
I’m sorry I don’t know all the arcane incantations of your court system of the top of my head.
Not really… “not guilty” can mean, he didn’t do it, or else he was temporarily insane because he was in pain from his medical condition, or even Ed Snowden’s “yeah I did it and it was illegal but at the end of the day I was right to do it and I think I can convince a jury of that.” Or just the OJ Simpson “let’s talk about something else for a while and change the subject” defense. It could be a lot of things.
But I do get it that that might be their defense and they’re just not saying anything about it because they’re waiting for the trial to lay out anything at all about it.
Ok, I’ll accept this conspiracy theory and add to it:
It was actually the surveillance software in the AI drive through.
Welcome to McDonalds
Would you like to report any serious crimes today?Hi, I’m a near ghost that has evaded capture against all odds, would you mind holding my bag o’ incriminating evidence while I order some nuggets?
President Not-Dead is excited about nuggies in his Huggies
he was inside the mcdonald’s though he didn’t use the drive thru
i agree that it’s all parallel construction from some illegal surveillance though
That’s what they WANT you to think.
Even if the tip was useful they can just claim to wasn’t and just not pay it out. Not like there’s an oversize process for it. Once they have the guy they can find the trail with whatever data they have and say they did it without the tip.
It’s like the police always saying that they find a “passport” in the truck after some terrorist attack. They have inside informers and they don’t want to disclose them.
this isn’t a conspiracy theory to the people saying it is. these systems are well attested to exist already. predictive policing is already being used. fucking watch yourselves. big brother sees all.
Most of the world is being spied in with AI cameras, streets, Walmart, etc. most likely even McDonald’s cameras.
Of course not. We know how it is living in the trump times.
Over the last 20 years for every $2000 in reward money offered by law enforcement in the United States, less than $4 has been paid.
or $1 per $500, or $2 per $1000. sorry, it was asking for fraction simplification
I’m sorry, you’re saying that only $1.214521 of every $607.2605 was paid out?
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
This is why I hated math in school. You guys are doing all sorts of crazy math, and I have no idea what’s going on.
We get it! The metric system is better! Geez.
Finally someone spells it out in a way I can understand. That’s outrageous now that it makes sense.
I didn’t know rewards were common but have never looked into that, who reports those numbers even? They sound fun to go through
WARNING MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF GATEKEEPING BELOW.
Who would have thought me a radical leftist would be sick of fellow leftists. If you can’t see an LLM as a legitimate tool then you’re just lying to yourselves. Furthermore the i didn’t post without asking if the other person wanted to see but you’re all too self righteous to keep out of.
It’s sad really as you’re not going to bring anybody over to your cause when you just shut out anything that doesn’t fit your narrow world view. How are we any different than r/conservative.
I asked an LLM although many here hate that.
It basically said it’s very fragmented but many departments / organisations do publish their rewards information.
SEC, DOJ, Dept of state RFJ, FBI, DEA, Crime stoppers, and more.
You have to go and look at each one and consume that data ideally programmatically. The LLM has links you can try but I won’t post the output without consent.
Why bother asking the bullshit machine
Why bother questioning what others do. Move along you silly cunt.
Imagine not being able to do your own research.
Imagine. I’m not a fucking researcher. I doubt you could do your own research.
It’s really not that hard, buddy.
At least, not for those of us who aren’t absolute idiots.
Well you sound like a damn clown if you think you’re a researcher. Wonder what degree you have.
I’m a software engineer not a researcher. Furthermore it was a quick and easy way to get an idea where to start. Don’t bring your biases about LLMs to me cause i couldn’t give a fuck what you think pal. Frankly you’re all boring going on about LLM bad, Linux great ad nauseam.
Go the fuck outside and touch some grass. It ain’t that deep you bloody melon. Sick of y’all’s judgemental asses. If you don’t like a topic or thing just move along. Christ on a bike nobody cares what you don’t like pal.
The fact of the matter is, I didn’t post the output unless the person who I was actually conversing with said they would appreciate that. Then you losers come and get involved.
Would love to debate some of you IRL so if anyone is around Manchester in the UK. hmu.
Damn that’s crazy bro. I ain’t reading all that.
Maybe I’ll have AI summarize it.
“They’re an idiot.”
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I want all of the data. I see nothing wrong with LLM’s scraping government sites
I’ll paste the output. My prompt is below too so if you want to probe it for the best way. You could get it to make a program just have to keep pushing if stuff doesn’t work. I’m a developer so it helps if you know a little.
Prompt.
Where can I find data on reward money offered vs paid in the USA over the last 20 years
Reply Short answer — there’s no single complete national dataset.
Reward programmes are fragmented across federal agencies, state/local Crime Stoppers chapters, private bail/bounty firms, and corporate/financial whistleblower schemes. To build a 20-year “offered vs paid” series you’ll need to pull from several sources and (optionally) stitch them together.
Below are the best places to look (with examples and why they matter): 1. Federal whistleblower & reward programs (high-quality, machine-readable annual reports) • SEC — Office of the Whistleblower: publishes annual reports with amounts awarded each fiscal year (detailed PDFs). Great for securities whistleblower payments (large, consistent dataset since 2011).  • DOJ / Department of Justice press releases and program pages — DOJ has various reward/whistleblower programs (and a recent pilot program). Useful for criminal/corporate enforcement reward totals where reported.  • U.S. Department of State — Rewards for Justice (RFJ): posts individual reward offers and announcements (large, occasional awards). Good for transnational/terrorism-related reward offers.  2. Federal law enforcement (FBI, DEA, etc.) — press releases and “rewards” pages • The FBI and some other agencies publish individual reward offers (Ten Most Wanted, fugitive rewards) and occasional summaries. These are event-level (not neat annual totals), so you’d scrape press releases or file FOIA requests for bulk data.  3. Crime Stoppers (national + local chapters) — aggregated rewards paid • Crime Stoppers USA and many local chapters publish aggregate “Rewards Paid” and “Property Recovered” statistics (useful for local/community reward payouts). There are many chapter reports you can scrape/collect.  4. Private-sector and industry sources (bounty/bail industry, private reward platforms) • Bounty hunters / bail bond industry earnings and private reward platforms are private and fragmented — statistics exist in trade pieces, law reviews, and industry blogs but no central public dataset. See law reviews and industry reports for estimates.  5. News archives & academic evaluations • For historical context and one-off large reward offers (and sometimes totals), use major news archives, NCJRS/NIJ and academic reports (e.g., evaluations of Crime Stoppers). 
Practical approach to build the 20-year series
If your goal is an actual dataset (offered vs paid per year), I recommend this pipeline: 1. Decide scope — which kinds of rewards? (e.g., federal law-enforcement offers, whistleblower awards, Crime Stoppers/local rewards, private bounty/bail payments). 2. Pull high-quality federal reports first — SEC whistleblower annual reports, DOJ/State press release archives, FBI press releases. (These are the easiest to quantify.)  3. Scrape Crime Stoppers chapters — collect annual “rewards paid” numbers from national and major local chapters (they often publish totals).  4. Supplement with FOIA or API calls — for FBI/DOJ bulk records or if you need all reward offers (not just press releases). 5. Handle private/industry data as estimates — compile from industry reports, law journals, and news; treat these as less reliable.  6. Normalize & document assumptions — e.g., currency (nominal vs inflation-adjusted), whether “offered” is the maximum stated offer or the amount actually committed, and whether “paid” includes partial payments.
Useful starting links (to grab data now) • SEC Whistleblower Annual Report (FY2024 example).  • SEC newsroom (whistleblower award press releases).  • State Dept — Rewards for Justice program pages.  • FBI reward announcements / press releases.  • Crime Stoppers USA / sample local chapter stats pages. 
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If you want, I can start pulling and assembling a first-pass dataset for you right now (for example: SEC whistleblower totals per year + Crime Stoppers national totals + notable federal reward offers per year) and deliver a CSV with year, source, offered (if available) and paid. Tell me whether to include or exclude (a) private bail/bounty payments, and (b) whether to inflation-adjust amounts — I’ll assume nominal USD if you don’t specify.
Wow, yeah. People hate that you used an LLM, lol. Look at those down arrows.
Yup. We are the left wing The Donald. They hate everything. And talk about the same shit incessantly without actually making any change cause they won’t engage with anyone else with a different opinion.
When it’s actually a perfect use of an LLM.
Some motherfuckers just insist on using hammers to drive screws
Right? This is one of the perfect examples where we don’t care too much about the accuracy of the data, it would be extremely time consuming, etc etc.
I believe that but I do have to wonder how much of that is due to no credible leads being offered on most cases vs them just cheating their own narcs. “Money paid” vs “Money offered” doesn’t give any clarity to that.
Especially when you consider that big rewards are not offered when detectives can figure things out pretty easily. The ante goes up with severity and difficulty. I’m sure there was a reward for Osama bin Laden, but I wasn’t not turning him in because the reward was too small or I didn’t believe I’d get paid. I just didn’t know where the dude was, let alone how I could get him turned in
Like anyone can claim a reward for a false flag murder anyway.
You have an article about this?
After initial news broke that they didn’t dial the right number (she called 911, not the 1-800 tip line) officials walked it back and said maaaybe but we won’t know until a conviction is final.
