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    Shocking that a terminally online 22 year old doesn’t have a consistent ideology.

    I saw a comment on instagram from someone saying Charlie Kirk had had some “powerful comments” in his videos. Checked the profile and there was a ton of pro-environment, anti-cop content. Most people don’t think super hard about their political ideology.

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    this country isn’t ready for what the youngest online male zoomers are like lol. i’m a millennial but i’ve been here the whole time watching cultures come and go and the memelord nihilist has been growing since ‘04. there are many variations and they range from sad and pathetic yet ultimately harmless to sad and pathetic and goddamn dangerous. these people can have a mixture of politics and usually prefer whatever has the most public condemnation so they can align themselves with immorality as a point of pride which becomes their identity. fuck having your own beliefs, just follow whatever gets the most negative response from society.

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      It’s the way disempowerment interacts with tribalism and a saturated obviously polarized media environment.

      This is only gonna get stupider. The cure is giving people agency over their lives, authorship over their world. Make the things they believe actually fucking matter.

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    My initial impression of his writings hit me as either Groyper posing as a leftist, or just an accelerationist psychopath.

    Either way, it doesn’t change the fact that right-wing extremism makes up the majority of violence.

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      I think a lot of people like to call people like him psychopaths, but what should a person who has no hope for the future be called when they use their life for something incredibly good like removing Kirk from the world?

      I don’t think he’s crazy. I think he’s the new normal.

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        If that was his thinking, then he’s terrible at foreseeing the coming chess moves from the other side.

        It was quite obvious the Trump administration was doing everything in their power to provoke something like this so they could then utilize it as their Reichstag Fire / October 7th incident to further strip civil liberties and consolidate power.

        Best thing he could’ve done was just do a public protest about Epstein and rally people to vote for midterms. I fail to see how this made vulnerable group safer in any way in all reality.

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          lol. No the best thing he could have done was shut the fuck up about it so he could keep making this place safer to live.

          You fear Trump… but the government hasn’t done anything (except ICE, I’m not forgetting about that).

          We need more American hero’s like Tyler, Tommy “bad shot” Crooks, and the dude who shot Brian what’s his name ceo that definitely was not Luigi.

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            That’s the sad part, it already isn’t. Many assholes on the right truly think they’re fighting a righteous war. Nay, a biblical crusade against evil. And they’re harming far more good people, both directly and indirectly.

            All guardrails and checks & balances have since been broken to prevent this very thing from playing out but now it all just boils down to who can push a louder message to the masses and distort their perception of reality.

            I’m pretty lost for answers on how to crawl our way out of this. My only hope is the economy tanks so hard that it hits the working class in their wallets. That’s pretty much the only thing they care about.

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              The economy is going to tank and we will have people dying in the street, mainly because the people in charge weren’t killed sooner.

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      If the Discord is real, he seemed like a pretty normal guy. Apparently he was bisexual, and his girfriend might’ve been trans. According to the source at least. I don’t know any groypers, so I don’t know how they act, but I don’t think that they’re normally fine with that sort of thing. Somewhere else said that he claimes to have done it to silence the hate that Kirk spewed, which is a fair enough reason I guess. Lots of contradictory info. Maybe he was a groyper that woke up after meeting his girlfriend. Maybe he just did it for attention. Maybe he just snapped. I’m just hoping for the best, that he did it for a decent enough reason, not to start a race war. We might even find out, if he isn’t Epsteined.

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      That’s honestly what I’m thinking it is. He was supposedly dating a trans person and Kirk is a real POS when it comes to that topic so I could imagine him loving his partner so much that he felt the need to kill someone he sees as making life more dangerous for them.

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      Listen, as someone who fell in love with a trans woman decades ago (my ex), it’s more plausible than you’d think. I didn’t go shoot up people since I wasn’t raised right wing, but love does make you do crazy things!

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    You mean…they’re not transgender?! Who’d thunk it?!

    Just mark one up against the stupid “a lot” response Kirk made when asked how many transgender shooters are out there.

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      The people who need to learn a lesson will never change their minds. The “Change My Mind” crowd are not there to have their mind changed, it’s to try to change those who are weaker and not able to come up with conclusions on their own.

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        Precisely. They’re a thought-filter. They want to weed out the ones who can prove them wrong and only address the ones who’re aligned with their set of beliefs.

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    You thought that right- and left-wing extremists are the problem, turns out the center-extremists are /s

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    I’ve been following all the news on him and he’s clearly a trans groyper antifa gun enthusiast centrist who likes to play Helldivers II.

    (/s)

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      And it was a professional hit. And it was done by Trump as a distraction. And to cause a race war. And to stop Kirk from spreading hate.

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      I’m not one to condemn people on grounds of ideological purity, but didn’t helldivers pull some super-proprietary registration and telemetry bullshit?

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      It does have a game chat. Hardly anyone uses it. Also I don’t think he’s that big on helldivers since he did ⬆️ ➡️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️, when he should have done ➡️ ➡️ ⬆️ or ➡️ ⬆️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ➡️