• MNByChoice@midwest.social
    6·
    35 minutes ago

    We offered the CEO $550 million as a benefit. A gesture. A show of vision only a Super Board can have.

    Instead, they treat it like a right. Like pay is something they’re owed.

    Some cash those checks. Some have it direct deposited. Different labels, same result, money leaves the company.

    And that’s when it hit me. If you really enjoy your job, why would you ever want to be paid for it?

    Or am I the only one who sees it this way?

    • Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      13·
      2 hours ago

      For own personal growth or the general benefit of my local society absolutely.

      Don’t even need a salary as long as the means to live happy are otherwise provided.

      For the profit of a corporation? No, yuck!

    • fading_person@lemmy.zip
      1·
      47 minutes ago

      I’ve seen lots and lots of discussions on whether people like or not working, and it always sums up to people giving different meanings to the word “work”. When it comes to do things as a hobby, for a cause, or for fulfilling any objective we have, most people will say that they enjoy it, but when it comes to serving someone else on a schedule, just to afford to stay alive, I’ve never seen anyone say that they enjoy it.

      Edit: some combination of words from my comment and the general theme made me somehow think about the music stayin’ alive, and I can’t get it out of my head anymore!

      • Crashumbc@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        1 hour ago

        Enjoy it! I was lucky to have 10+ years at a job I loved. Great coworkers, awesome boss, reasonable expectations.

        Then the VP left. Within two years everything went to complete shit (except the coworkers although they either left or retreated into being bots at work)

        Nothing last :/

    • Daftydux@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      1·
      1 hour ago

      If I have to work Im going to find something that stimulates me in a way I find interesting. Or you could just say I like it.

  • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
    16·
    5 hours ago

    If you really enjoy your job, why would you ever want time away from it?

    Good point, maybe you should think about that a little harder bro.

  • pressanykeynow@lemmy.world
    22·
    9 hours ago

    USA needs some worker rights laws(apart from free healthcare, free education and others), in normal countries you’ll be in trouble if you somehow didn’t take your 28 days(more in some) of vacation, or were spotted at work in those days.

    • the_crotch@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      55·
      8 hours ago

      I don’t like that either. People shouldn’t be penalized for not taking vacation. That’s just a different form of taking away their choice.

      • teegus@sh.itjust.works
        72·
        4 hours ago

        This is not a good take. It opens for an implicit expectation from your employer that you should not use your vacation. If you get passed over for promotion because you took out vacation it is not really a choice, is it?

            • the_crotch@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              31·
              1 hour ago

              You sound like a manager, looking to control how people handle their vacation time. “Workers get punished for taking vacation” and “workers get punished for not taking vacation” are two sides of the same coin. Personally I’m in favor of “workers can do whatever they want with their PTO without fear of repurcussion”.

              • Tinidril@midwest.socialEnglish
                11·
                38 minutes ago

                It’s not about punishment. If time off is optional than it’s a near guarantee that workers will be punished in some way for taking it. At a minimum bosses should have to pay out for unused time off, even though that that will certainly lead to some bosses penalizing those workers.

        • the_crotch@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          4 hours ago

          I take every minute of PTO time allocated to me. I am not so arrogant that I believe others should be punished for making different choices, though.

      • pressanykeynow@lemmy.world
        21·
        4 hours ago

        Well you could work on vacation but it’s usually paid 2-4 times per hour. So it depends on your employer willing to pay that much.

        • the_crotch@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          3 hours ago

          I have no desire to work on vacation. I have no desire to work at all, I only do it because i.enjoy having food and a place to live. But I don’t believe in punishing people for victimless crimes. They’re not hurting anyone but themselves by letting their PTO expire, leave them alone.

  • AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml
    17·
    9 hours ago

    He’s not wrong, IF companies were worker controlled by law. Like a cooperative. Workers would enjoy their work more and would want to work more if they had agency. We are supposed to be a democracy, so why don’t get workers the right to vote on who their managers are, what to do with the profits (after paying back loans) and how many working hours there should be?

    Imagine if you’d mandate that even shitshows like fox news were suddenly worker controlled instead of by incorporated demons of greed. Workers generally want to create a good product and make customers happy, and in the case of news agencies they’d want to inform their readers well.

    • socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
      1·
      38 minutes ago

      Meh, there’s no world where people are going to actually enjoy doing tedious, repetitive tasks even if they fully own their surplus labor. This was always my beef with the antiwork subreddit. “Socialism is when nobody digs ditches.”

      There will always be shitty jobs until we fully automate society. The guy doing hard labor in the hot sun is always going to resent the guy working in AC even if they both own their surplus labor. This is why socialism is still just harm reduction on the path to achieving a post scarcity, post labor society.

  • caboose2006@lemmy.world
    20·
    14 hours ago

    After being America pilled I moved to China and had a British roommate. My mind was blown when he told me his mom took paid vacation days to tidy the house. I would NEVER dream of using the 14 days of vacation I had in the USA to clean the fucking house. Just IMAGINE having so much time off that you’d even consider using some to clean the house. It seemed awesome to me.

  • Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca
    42·
    19 hours ago

    “I offered my employees a salary, they then expected the full salary paid out. Miserable, ungrateful wretches.”

  • KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    45·
    22 hours ago

    “I’m an insufferable rich cunt who doesn’t do much at work, I have enough money to pay other people to do everything for me in the rest of my life, so I spend my free time persuing any hobby or interest I want, I’m also very empty inside so spend most of my time working.”

    • Lemminary@lemmy.world
      11·
      21 hours ago

      spend most of my time pretending to work

      FIFY. Those meetings aren’t gonna conduct themselves, you know!

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.socialEnglish
    38·
    23 hours ago

    Even if you love doing something, you’ll eventually want a break. What this guy is describing is addiction. Work addiction is one of many types of addiction that isn’t even seen as such because while it can destroy everything else in your life, it likely won’t stop you from being financially successful and that’s the only measure of success anyone actually gives a fuck about, it seems.

    • Danquebec@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      5 hours ago

      You can’t be financially successful if destroying everything else left you with mental health issues that prevent you from working. A work addict can keep on for a while but they’ll crash.

  • Routhinator@startrek.websiteEnglish
    16·
    21 hours ago

    I love my field, I hate the majority of jobs in my field because while tech can do many cool and wonderful things and could be solving many more issue, most companies are busy doing what one percenters want and pushing for the least effort solutions and everything is always a cram. No breathing space, no time to enjoy the product and reflect on what to do next. Just cram, enshittify, add tracking, automate away your peers, do more with less people so we can fire more people.

    I’m so sick of the efficiency rat race that capitalist investors demand.

    • squaresinger@lemmy.world
      4·
      9 hours ago

      The really weird thing at that is that the efficiency that is demanded from the lower levels is squandered by the higher ones.

      I’m working for a large corporation, and while I’m doing my job quite well (at least I think am), my work is useless. On the one hand, management constantly pivots. Today feature X is super important. Let’s invest multiple millions and crunch time to get this done as fast as possible. It’s almost done now, so now it turns out it’s really not important any more. Shelve it for a few months or years and do something else instead that’s super important until we don’t care about it any more.

      But not only is the work useless because “agile means upper management can change their mind twice daily”, but the thing I’m working on is a marketing app that nobody wants anyway. People just use it because they get some small discounts, but really nobody has an actual benefit of the app itself.

      You could probably close down the whole marketing department of the corporation and nobody would notice an actual difference.

      The same holds true for most corporate jobs. It’s so much politics and so much thinking firmly inside my own little drawer that there’s really no point to all of that.

      And with all of that waste happening, it’s really ridiculous that anyone in upper management even dares to utter the term “efficiency”, let alone pressures employees into anything for the purpose of efficiency.