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  • Jack@lemmy.catoPeople Twitter@sh.itjust.worksWhat can we do
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    29 days ago

    Having a child adds approximately 58.6 tonnes CO2e per year.

    The maximum average CO2e per person per year to reach the Paris climate agreement goal of a 1.5 °C, is about 3-10 tonnes. We could do this with a 0.01 fertility rate for a few decades, until we’re not catastrophically overpopulated anymore.




  • Jack@lemmy.catoPolitical Memes@lemmy.worldbOtH sIdEs ArE tHe SaMe
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    1 month ago

    I don’t think “kill fewer people” is splitting hairs.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/08/16/biden-oil-drilling-production/ :

    As he campaigned for president in 2020, Joe Biden made a bold promise at a New Hampshire town hall, adding repetition for emphasis: “No more drilling on federal lands. Period. Period. Period. Period.” […] The Biden administration has now outpaced the Trump administration in approving permits for drilling on public lands, and the United States is producing more oil than any country ever has. […] The country is expected to produce 13.2 million barrels of oil per day on average this year — millions of barrels more than Saudi Arabia or Russia.

    “producing more oil than any country ever has” is making the biosphere unlivable, and causing a mass extinction which will kill more people.

    If enough people vote for green parties, we can reverse anthropogenic climate change and stop the anthropocene extinction. If however we keep voting for the omnicidal lesser evil, then we’re voting for omnicidal evil, and complicit in killing more people.



  • I don’t think fear of persecution and resistance to authoritarianism is selfish. I think some things are vastly worse than others, e.g. wiping out more than 50% of genera and more than 70% of species, and making the biosphere unlivable for most creatures larger than mice - is incredibly selfish; and being complicit in genocide is a line some people won’t cross no matter if it may benefit them personally in the short term. I understand most people have very different priorities, and care more about their own short-term goals even if those goals make them complicit in omnicide.





  • “Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don’t fall out of the sky. They don’t pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses, and American universities - and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It’s what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, […] you’re going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain’t going to do any good; you’re just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it’s not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here… like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There’s a nice campaign slogan for somebody: ‘The public sucks. Fuck hope.’” – George Carlin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBrbXOmnW70

    I don’t completely agree: slavery is now illegal; so there’s hope they’ll one day vote to oppose omnicidal biosphere destruction, and genocides.








  • Jack@lemmy.catoPolitical Memes@lemmy.worldNevar Forget
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    1 month ago

    To convince Greens or Carlins (people who don’t vote because the Democrats are still too evil from their point-of-view) to vote for Democrats, you need to understand yourself and them. Once you do that, you’ll be able to offer more convincing arguments to support your position.

    If you’re voting for Democrats, you possibly agree with the following scale of evilness:

    • 10 Hitler
    • 9 Stalin
    • 8.5 Trump
    • 8 Republicans and people who vote for them
    • 7
    • 6
    • ~5-3 elected Democratic party members
    • 2
    • 1 you
    • 0 Jesus

    The thing is that some Greens see the world very differently:

    • 10 people making the biosphere unlivable thru overpopulation
    • 9 factory farmers and commercial fishing companies
    • 8
    • 7 Hitler, Stalin
    • 6
    • 5 George W. Bush, Putin
    • 4 Trump, Republicans, and people who vote for them
    • 3 Gore, Obama, Democrats, and people who vote for them
    • 2
    • 1 Sanders
    • 0
    • -1
    • -2
    • -3
    • -4 Green party
    • -5
    • -6
    • -7 them
    • -8
    • -9
    • -10

    The Greens’ (and Carlins’) priorities are very different. They may think that choosing to make the biosphere unlivable is the worst thing you can do, because without a biosphere that supports life, nothing else matters.

    As he campaigned for president in 2020, Joe Biden made a bold promise at a New Hampshire town hall, adding repetition for emphasis: “No more drilling on federal lands. Period. Period. Period. Period.” […] The Biden administration has now outpaced the Trump administration in approving permits for drilling on public lands, and the United States is producing more oil than any country ever has. […] The reality is the United States is already dominant. The country is expected to produce 13.2 million barrels of oil per day on average this year — millions of barrels more than Saudi Arabia or Russia. https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/08/16/biden-oil-drilling-production/

    They may think that torturing trillions of fish to death every year, and enslaving hundreds of billions of animals in torturous conditions every year, is worse than all genocides and wars in all of history combined. They think that voting for someone who enables even a single genocide is a line they won’t cross.

    They may think that given the choice between popular Hitler, popular Stalin, and unpopular Gandhi; they’d rather vote for Gandhi than the popular lesser evil, because that specific evil is omnicidally evil. That it’s better to vote for good and fail, than it is to vote for evil and succeed.