• PunnyName@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Saying “no one will ever love you, and you will die alone” is not a lived experience that can be true. It’s a definitive “end” statement, and the very people saying it are alive, thus not “ended”.

    Such a claim can be counteracted with behavioral changes of the messenger.

    They aren’t trying to empathize, they’re trying to manipulate. They’re trying to justify their behavior without making changes. And even if they’re an 80 year old man saying these things, perhaps that’s indicative of that 80 year old man’s behavior, and not that of 4+ billion other people.

    It’s projection.
    It’s manipulation.
    It’s abuse.

    It’s not empathy or sympathy.

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      3 days ago

      Most men don’t have children and most die alone. Lots of men are alone during their lives and suffer from it. And you want to make these stories invisible, can’t say it aloud, can’t mention it, can’t say it to each other, can’t say it to the world? Who else is even telling the truth of these men’s lives and the very real possibility it won’t be happily ever after, as it ain’t for so many. The fact that the only voices that speak to these experiences are exploitative ones does more to emphasises how invisible this experience is to society, to culture. Where else are these stories told, heard and empathise with? Nowhere. There is a need in the culture for men and the only people willing to speak to it are these people. Where is the rest of society, of culture, of human beings who care enough to help, instead of a treat them like they are an annoyance that needs to simply be different? These people are desperate enough to cling to something that bad for them because it’s all there is to grab and they need something. It’s doesn’t seem like much of a choice.

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        2 days ago

        Most? How’s that? Also wtf you talking about dude, you’re commenting in a community about man issues. Incel sects are one of them, praying on vulnerable guys.