Is it when you use capital letters properly?

  • plyth@feddit.org
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    22 hours ago

    It’s like Lemmy and Reddit, people want the promise of more content.

    In theory Lemmy could be the more active network. What does it take to make that real?

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        21 hours ago

        Workers can prefer to live in a capitalist society if they end up with owning more, or just hope so. So they can be capitalist despite not owning capital. Of course that ignores the distinction between the role as capitalist and the believe.

        In general, people don’t value being in control. If they would, people would have moved to Lemmy.

        There is still the opportunity that those who care actively push Lemmy beyond its natural growth to make it competitive with Reddit. But at what cost? Then people would choose Lemmy, but not by conviction.

        Similarly, people could stop being capitalists by being able to work in a country with a better offer. But that wouldn’t make them anti-capitalist.

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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          21 hours ago

          You’re confusing capitalists, ie capital owners, with liberals, those who are pro-capitalism. As for Lemmy, its growth is tied to recognition and Reddit’s decay, the established community on Reddit is itself the draw.

          • plyth@feddit.org
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            20 hours ago

            I would say only a subset of liberals accept raw Capitalism. Liberals need free markets which is a contradiction with Capitalism.

            To have less capitalistic structures, people would have to support something with no immedite benefits. Just waiting for Capitalism’s decline is like waiting for Reddit’s decline. It’s always there but never so much that the majority switches. Something is missing that people act on their own.

            • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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              17 hours ago

              liberalism is defined by its adherence to capitalism; if you’re not a capitalist, then you’re also not a liberal.

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                15 hours ago

                Liberalism requires individual freedom, including free markets. Capitalism ends with monopolies that destroy free markets.

                It is not the same. Liberal societies must want regulated markets.

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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              20 hours ago

              Liberalism is the ideological aspect of capitalism. “Raw capitalism” doesn’r really mean anything.

              To move onto socialism, we need to overthrow the state, replace it with a socialist one, and establish public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy. Countries like China, Vietnam, and Cuba have already done this, as did the former USSR.

              • plyth@feddit.org
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                15 hours ago

                For liberalism, see sibling comment.

                we need to overthrow the state

                Capitalism is making sure that there is not much of a we.

                • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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                  14 hours ago

                  Capitalism with monopoly is still capitalism, Liberalism being a failed ideology does not mean it ceases to be Liberalism as it fails. There’s absolutely a we within capitalism, the working classes are a we.

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    … the ‘temporarily embarassed millionaire’ has ‘aspirational’ capital, in a fanciful, idealized future.

    AKA, ‘The American Dream

    Its a kind of faith-based magical thinking, delusion.

    Which, as George Carlin let us all know, I think over a decade ago now…

    … ‘you have to be asleep, to believe.’

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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        2 days ago

        Then we explain it to them until they get it. It’s not hard to explain that capitalists are those who own capital, and liberals are those that support capitalism.

        • gustofwind@lemmy.worldOP
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          2 days ago

          They are often just married to the notion that their principals of liberalism are not mutually exclusive with subjecting capital to public ownership.

          I personally find dealing with that separate issue goes nowhere real fast with the average person and alienating them isn’t helpful either so I take what I can get.

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    2 days ago

    I had a fuckwit self-professed ‘communist’ co-worker many years ago that tried to tell me that my education and skills was my capital. :|

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    2 days ago

    “b-but i have money” Has savings and stockshares that would last a year or two without work