There is no question that the “threat from within” is djt himself. Only one person. Not a foreign nation or rebellion.
What djt is trying to do is much worse than burning the US flag.
There is no question that the “threat from within” is djt himself. Only one person. Not a foreign nation or rebellion.
The threat is far more that just Trump, though you’re right that it’s not a foreign threat; it’s conservatives, who have always fought against everything that America claims to be about, while themselves claiming to be patriots
Hopefully the MAGAts won’t burn the judges house down. But the “violent left” is the real issue…
She didn’t just hand down a second ruling, she said no to any and all NG deployment from Trump.
Trumps and his lawyers decided since the ruling said no Oregon NG, that they could send in the California NG and that would be fine … the judge and the legal team involved worked the weekend and ruled no NG can be deployed.
does this include chicago because they are in illinois physically.
Even worse, they’re sending the Texas guard to Chicago because Abbot’s a fellow fascist and won’t fight the deployment like Newsom will.
I’ll use the national guard reserves! It’s got the word Reserves after it, its not the same!
He is probably going to try sending ICE in enmass.
This is really just a trial run for the 2026 elections, he wants to clamp down so he doesnt get impeached.
*en masse, but yea I’m waiting for when ICE goes beyond their immigration like we’re expecting. Problem really is that many of the normal police are happy to help so I don’t see why they’d need to, and that’s pretty depressing.
Impeached is peanuts. But for the Senate to vote to convict on the impeachment charges, they need a 2/3 majority, which would certainly require some GOP yes-votes.
I read “enmass” as “enemas” and I was in full agreement.
Ooh, an icy enema? That sounds refreshing!
This is President Miller’s doing. Trump has no idea what is going on. Miller also fucked Melania. Maybe Trump is a cuck, everyone is saying it…
Hopefully ya’ll have burner accounts on right-wing media sites at this point… right?
It would be a great time to start seeding two ideas:
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Miller and Melania seen together - why isn’t mainstream media covering this???
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Every time we suggest Trump hire food tasters to protect himself from poisoning by jealous haters, JD Vance’s team shoots the idea down, not saying Vance is going to do anything bad, but why wouldn’t they want to protect the president? Just asking questions here! (We’re preparing for later, or honestly any day now.)
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Jayzus! Mercedes really does have shockingly bad taste in men, hey?
Maybe she has a thing for big chips on shoulders and tiny penises…
He’s not on lemmy, my dude.
This judge who ruled against handing over the voting rolls had her house explode yesterday….Im sure it’s just a coincidence and not MAGA terrorism this time. /s https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/south-carolina-judges-15m-beachfront-1429059
Just so it’s clear, this is a different judge.
I know but this judge ruled against this administration’s illegal activities
A spokesperson of the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division told the outlet that they are current investigating the fire.
Kittredge said SLED chief Mark Keel ‘said he will stay in touch and let us know if there is any evidence of arson.’
‘At this time, we do not know whether the fire was accidental or arson. Until that determination is made, Chief Keel has alerted local law enforcement to provide extra patrols and security,’ he added.
The judge has allegedly been receiving death threats in the past few weeks, sources told FITSNews.
So … the police will let the press know if there is anything to know. Ok then.
So … the police will let the press know if there is anything to know. Ok then.
The right-wing paramilitary who are notorious for being bad at their jobs is on the case!
Jesus Christ. Are we allowed to call it a civil war yet or is that still “overreacting”?
I’ve heard it called a “Cold Civil War,” which I think captures the feeling right now. Neither side is actively engaged, but the administration is stepping closer and closer to the line, using more and more overt uses of force and rhetoric.
There can’t be a war when one of the sides is not fighting nor willing to fight.
I’m not calling for anyone to do anything, just pointing it out: None of the people in charge of any institution nominally opposed to Trump are willing to even come close to that line. Do you really think there is a world in which any blue state governor would authorize any use of force against the feds? And if you can make up a contrived scenario where this does happen, can you imagine it escalating to the sanctioned use of lethal force?
There are factions within MAGA who have drank their own kool-aid so hard they actually think that there are Antifa militias out there and that they can gaud them into giving them a Reichstag Fire. That is lunacy, typical fascistic paranoid violent fantasy.
If they can’t speed up their authoritarian takeover that way, they will simply keep going with their current strategy of slowly overturning all jurisprudence until eventually blue state leaders will politely roll over, invite ICE political officers to oversee their operations, smile, and forward the order to send their children to Trump&Ghislaine’s Fun Family Camp.
I feel the need to point out that there are two zombies in this subthread.
…I don’t think we can litigate the Nazis off the beaches of Normandy.
The Trump regime is slowed by the courts, even if the regime is clearly not respecting the rule of law. So why give up one tool in our tool belt? We can still resist and practice non-cooperation while the courts do what they can. And plus, the more roadblocks the courts put up, the more the regime will have to do unpopular, illegal shit in order to enact their fascist plans. They won’t be able to hide behind a veneer of legality.
While certainly true, we are fighting over the same military. And that military is oath bound to refuse illegal orders. So, the more judges that declare the orders illegal or declare an injunction against them, the more members of that military that will refuse orders.
Trump is known to turn on a dime against anyone who doesn’t do what he asks. Once he does that to military members refusing clearly illegal orders, more of them will refuse. So, every bit sets the stage for winning more and more of the military against the nazis.
Best case, JAG officers from a state national guard advise troops to ignore illegal orders, trump attempts to fire them, but doesn’t have the authority and he turns entire states worth of national guard completely against him. Then he orders other states guard to arrest them, and their JAG advises to ignore. So he orders the military to do it. And their JAG advises to ignore. Then he has lost the entirety of the military.
I think a lot of people are buying into the image of white guy + tac vest + gun = ICE = fed = military. These things are in no way equal but it’s an important part of the administration’s plans for you to imagine they are.
ICE is a big bark and a little bite. These people have minimal/no training, they are literally angry thugs on a power trip. Step back and actually think about the outrageous operations and headlines you see.
They’re tough guys when they outnumber you or are tackling a 70 year old nanny, but when faced with a critical mass of opposition they tuck tail and run. The only thing they have going for them is the costume and a gun.
Turns out that watching a bunch of conspiracy videos about how brown people ruin America doesn’t make you a tough guy. What actually does make you tough is years of drilling, specialized training, decades of institutional knowledge, engaging in real combat, etc. So we’re back to the eternal truth: the military are the true kingmakers of the state.
In terms of personal safety you still need to watch out for ICE on the streets. However, in terms of political power they’re a paper tiger. They could never lock down a city or shut down an election without massive military support. Whether the military would lend that support is an open question, but certainly not without a compelling reason (beyond the POTUS decrees it)
Exactly, so winning the tug of war for the national guard is key. And court wins help do that.
At some point we need state militias to protect us from the unconstitutional actions of the federal government
Something I learned this year is that many states already have state militias, they’re just inactive in many cases:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/state-militias-by-state
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_defense_force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category%3AState_defense_forces_of_the_United_States?wprov=sfla1
I looked up the one for Washington, and unfortunately it looks like an organization I would neither want to join nor be allowed to join because of the type of personnel they need and the legal limit of how big it can be. It has 120 members, all officers.
Thank you for this I had no idea
Don’t worry there are already tons of militia groups… Oh wait.
I see now that Those were always state sanctioned groups
No but we can make them significantly less effective, less rapid and less legitimate.
These asshats are probably just hoping they eventually get a judge who doesn’t wanna work on a weekend.
And there will be contempt charges for the obvious contempt of court, right?
Right?
That’s sweet, but it’s not gonna help. It’s gonna happen.
Yeah but that doesn’t mean we should just give up and let Fascism take over. Any pushback is good, no mater how ineffective it is. Make Trump’s life as difficult as you can. With enough luck, the pressure will send him to an early demise.
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I think ineffective pushback is bad and I’m on the wrong side? I think wasting time on things that are ineffective is bad and I’m on the wrong side?
We are so fucked 🤪
Well to start, the effectiveness isn’t possible to measure at this point.
However, the comment had nothing to do with that, and instead was about you comparing attempted protests to “participation trophies” which is a conservative dog whistle for “kids these days don’t have that dog eat dog capitalist spirit, do we need more lead in the air again?”
For context, WW2 was faught and won with participation trophy snowflakes. If it was good enough to defeat Nazis then, it’s good enough to defeat Nazis now.
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Not that it’s relevant at all here, but who do you think came up with the idea to give people participation awards? Do you think it was the children who were confused about getting them?
Angry parents probably. Crybaby kids.
Boomers. The answer is boomers.
Yeah and who handed them out, hmm? I didn’t ask for your god damn participation trophy.
The generation that is responsible for raising the “lazy Millennials” sure loves to point the finger instead of looking in the mirror.
I’m a lazy millennial, sorry to burst your bubble.
Then act your age and think for yourself, instead of parroting what your parents told you.
I disagree with you. That doesn’t make me a different generation.
I don’t think you actually read what I said.
Honest question. First, I agree with you. So it’s why I’m asking. Are you organizing in anyway? Protests? Mutual Aids? Organizations? Anything?
If you think this way I hope so. Because we need you. Shits getting real on the streets and I’m worried most people that realize that are at home watching Twitch streams or YouTube coverage of it.
Doomerism needs to die. You can still be realistic. But doomerism keeps you from acting. It’s the “freeze” of you flight or flight response and it’s not going to help.
Is it though? As planned by MAGA? I’ve seen other news from Portland/Oregon, it looks like the local admin is prepared to stop the National Guard. As well as protesters.
The local admin will not line up and be a human shield. It is a ridiculous notion that the storm troopers will stop because of a bunch of paperwork.
The Trump regime clearly still follows (some) court orders, even if they’re hoping to circumvent them. So why should we roll over and give up in the courts? That is the ridiculous notion.
I think you’re confusing an authoritarian breakthrough with authoritarianism. We’re still in the phase where courts have an effect.
Courts have the effect of a few days. If, in a few more days, the California National Guard is in Oregon—will you apologize to me?
I don’t think you’re picking up what I’m putting down. I’m saying that the courts are one tool in our resistance toolbox, because the Trump regime still sometimes listens to court rulings—as their authoritarian takeover isn’t complete. I’m not saying courts are magical in that they’ll instantly stop Trump forever, and I’m not saying they’re sufficient on their own. We have to keep resisting and practicing non-cooperation as well.
We aren’t resisting or practicing non-cooperation.
Speak for yourself.
