He’s eating it with a spoon so no one can say he eats bananas for the shape

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    I think worrying about if your actions will “lose your man card” is the surest way to “lose your man card.”

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    This US thing baffles me. It goes “whoa, a man cannot possibly buy tampons, or hold his friends handbag, or whatever…” because some braindead six year old idiot character out of Beavis and Butthead might magically pop out of thin air and guffaw “Haha, tampons!”, which is somehow, potentially terminally embarassing and will end your public life.

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      Its not a US thing. Its a loser thing. This brand of machismo is globally available.

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        While it’s globally available, it’s really much much much more prevalent in the US. And it has been for, litterally, decades. Fourty years ago, a US girlfriend was already complaining about it, and I didn’t understand what it was about (Yes, I might be older than you are). It’s also completely obvious in US mass media.

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          It really isn’t, BUT American media is a power house globally and makes many of our cultural events more prevalent than reality. If you travel the world, you’ll find things far worse in India, Brazil, Mexico, and really most non-first world countries. I mean theyre so afraid of homosexualty in parts of the world they consider you a demon and kill you.

          One of the reasons you hear about it in the USA is that its considered newsworthy. If it was as common as you were implying it would be like reporting on the prevalence of turkey sandwiches for lunch. We dont eat them all the time but its not weird or rare.

          Modern men are engaged with their children of both genders and youtube has further propped up the narrative that being a good father means doing so at only a positive reflection of your masculinity.

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            It’s also, because you bathe in it, that you don’t realise how utterly different the US is in so many ways from the rest of the werstern world. No, really.

            From the innumerable religious sects, the numerous racial things, the bizarre poliltics, the relationship to the body (like the ritual cock cutting to avoid masturbation, or the fear of areolas), the extremely strict gendered roles (see above), the love of money (which, admittedly, was kind of a global thing, until it became Gelt Uber Alles! and fucked up your whole society, even though it was the one that started with the most progress for the working class, inspiring people everywhere else… what the fuck happened?).

            And that’s probably just scratching the surface. Of course, you can start to find some of this here and there in other “western” countries nowadays. And you can find more of it in “nonaligned” countries.

            That’s not the point though. What I meant to say is that the US mindset is on average very different from that of the other western countries when you start to dig a bit (and yes, of course you’ll find lots of exceptions). So the rise of something weird in the US isn’t really surprising. Although I would have expected something more explicitly religious than a rapist paedophile.

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    My work has guys who have really high toxic masculinity. Off the top of my head, some of the things they complain about not being man enough are: umbrellas, gluten free, and mushrooms

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      The umbrella one always cracks me up. Lookin at these wet fools in the rain when I’m nice and dry. Such a strange hill to die on.

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      I can hear the mongoloids now…

      Hurr hurr, mushroom looks like dick. U ghey.

      Glad I left the presence of that insufferable bullshit when I left high school. That really sucks you have to listen to that garbage

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      Yup, got em here too. We get provided either lanyards or extendable clips for our badges at work. Overheard a group of contractors saying wearing the clips made you gay. Its the dumbest shit I’ve heard. How can wearing an ID badge be anything?

      Wearing the clip on your pants makes way more sense since the badge readers are all at waist height.

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      I can understand (NOT AGREE) how umbrellas and gluten free fit into their twisted view on what is ‘manly’; using external sources to cope with difficulties. But mushrooms? The fuck? Just man up and eat them, they’re delicious shakemysmheadmh

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    There are very few things more manly than having the courage to do something “unmanly” in public.

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    What does this “surrender your man card” even mean? I must transition to be a woman? So much for protecting people from being “force-transed” for showing even the slightest form of gender-nonconformity!

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      It tends to mean something akin to “you don’t even need to transition to be a woman, because your masculinity is already so corrupted that you effectively already are one”.

      This logic isn’t in contradiction with their transphobia, but in fact synergises with it. Trans men are seen as having no right to intrude upon the privileged position of masculinity, and trans women are seen as even more horrifying due to the fact that they willingly eschew their masculinity — something that’s incomprehensible to someone whose personal identity is 90% whatever hegemonic masculinity tells them to be.

      A friend remarked to me once that one of the reasons she found transition liberating was because she had been bullied all her life for being too effeminate, so coming out as trans felt like shouting “you can’t fire me, I quit!”

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      You forfeit your Alpha Male Club membership and any dues paid immediately.

      You are disqualified from ever becoming a Navy SEAL.

      If your favorite sports team wins a championship it will have nothing to do with you being a fan.

      If you have any male cats they are promoted to King (s) of the house.

      It’s brutal.

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        That’s a different club, the man club really only gets you discounts at certain motel chains, sorta like AAA. You automatically decline roadside assistance though, because man.

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    I’m fine with anyone saying “surrender your man card”. It lets me know I can safely ignore this moron; they have nothing of value to add to any conversation.

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    I am always fascinated how the man who is strong enough in his convictions to do whatever the hell he wants is considered the “weak” one whereas the “macho” shit is afraid of his own shadow and that some other man may not like what he’s doing.

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      In the 90s, especially in high school environments, homophobia wasn’t just common, it was socially reinforced. Gay was used as an insult, casually and constantly. People rarely questioned it. Teachers didn’t intervene unless things turned violent, and even then, the issue addressed was the aggression, never the prejudice. It was an era when appearing different, even slightly, could make you a target. Most people avoided standing out if they could help it.

      During that time my grandma gave me a pink terrycloth nightgown. On her it was a nightgown, but on me it fit more like a long shirt. I thought it was amusing and comfortable, so I wore it regularly without giving it much weight.

      Each time someone hurled gay slurs at me, I replied, “I’m secure enough not to care what other people think. Can you say the same?” They usually followed up with more immature remarks, which I’d call out too. The problem wasn’t what I wore, it was that I wasn’t afraid to wear it.

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      I feel like it’s the “loudest voice in the room” effect. There’s so many insecure men that security is rarely visible and thus ostracized as otherly.

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      Because it’s specific types of strength that are part of traditional masculinity, not any and all types.

      These things are mostly arbitrary, right? There doesn’t have to be some simple, overarching principle. Masculinity can be any combination of things, no matter how difficult it is to summarise them.

      I also think though that there’s a real desire amongst progressives to find “contradictions” to “prove” that is bullshit. So they imagine that this guy who said that something is not manly is “afraid of his own shadow” when they have no reason to believe that. He’s probably incredibly confident in his masculinity but he also believes that masculinity is something worth “enforcing”.

      We haven’t seen him worry that he might not meet the standard, only be part of enforcing it. It’s pretty silly to think that the latter implies the former

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    My daughters and I (and my son, and my wife) have been to more than 50 concerts together. Got another on December 5th: 12 of us.
    We love music. And one another.

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        My brother actually gets this a lot from other fathers. They apparently can’t comprehend a world where a man with two daughters might actually give a shit about what their daughters like to do, and take an active interest in those things.

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          This makes me think about my ex-wife, who made very little attempt at giving a shit about what our son was into, because that was just stupid boy stuff, then couldn’t understand why they weren’t all that close.

          I didn’t really care all that much about half the stuff he was into, but I at least made an effort to meet him on his level, and wouldn’t you know, our relationship is great.

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          As someone whose father didn’t give a shit about his daughter, please tell your brother he is a kick ass dude and give him a hug from this internet stranger.

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          Our local Scout troop closed in part, I’m told, because parents treated it more like a daycare for a few hours rather than something to be involved in and do WITH their kids. The troop felt they were no longer fulfilling their mission and decided to dissolve.

          We weren’t involved in the troop at all but I still found that news really disappointing. I’m a busy guy but I still try to make time for my kids.

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            A scout troop cannot exist without parent involvement. The national organization doesn’t run them, each troop/pack is a self organizing group not only made up entirely of parent volunteers, but a rotating group as the children age out.

            The fact that scouts has exists in this form for decades indicates this is a new problem.

            Turns out Gen X and millennials are more disengaged than their boomer parents. At least in terms of the type of families who typically participate in scouts.

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          Having seen how little attention other fathers pay their own kids at those fathers-visit-school events, they absolutely don’t. They barely even notice their boys.

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    I think it’s so funny that these toxic masculinity types all pay for a little blue participation trophy