I just saw the news that they’ve charged him with terrorism. It’s like they want to keep the outrage going, and give the jury a reason to acquit.
Not guilty. You can only murder human beings. Brian Robert Thompson willingly relinquished his humanity a long time ago. What Luigi did was more akin to using bleach to treat mold in the bathroom. Killing a living thing? Yes. Murder? Certainly not.
Daniel Jackson: It’s obviously fighting to survive.
O’Neill: So do bacteria!
Oh, one Luigi damaged your world? Institute health care reform, or we’ll send dozens of them, one after the other!
God. How was SG1 so damn good? Every few years I do a rewatch of the whole franchise. It’s a masterpiece.
Trek is my usual background show but I’m currently on a SG1 rewatch. It’s funny to see so many people from Trek show up in various roles, I think Hammond of Texas would fit perfectly as a statue in front of Starfleet Academy as a model of humanity’s ideals regarding exploration of the stars. Given access to advanced healing technology, both O’Neill and O’Brien would be busting heads to ensure everyone got a fair shake, they’d both despise a CEO like this one
My theory is that once you have a role as a main character in Star Trek, you’re pretty much stuck in sci fi. The exception to this is if you were already a well established actor prior to Trek. So Patrick Stewart could go back to high theatre, but Colm Meaney ended up mugging Atlantis for a little C4.
Ha! I’d forgot about that one, my favorite role of his outside engineering was the DEA asshole in Con Air who gets his sweet Corvette stolen in epic fashion
I think the Venn of actors doing sci fi shows and actors in the Vancouver area is pretty close, same with how every British show has at least one person from another. Some obviously like the genre, and who wouldn’t?
They’ve charged Brian Thompson with terrorism for what he did - or at least caused - to tens of thousands of people each year?
Finally they start to make sense!18 people died since you made this comment due to UHC greed.
They can charge him with whatever they want. Proving it to a jury is a whole other thing.
Most life insurance policies don’t cover acts of terrorism.
I’m just saying…
Be careful not to say anything positive about luigi because you’re certainly going to end up on a priority list of people they are going to keep a lot of surveillance on. It’s true, feds are terrified of people who seem inspired by things like this. If you say something really really nice about Luigi, the feds might even send you one of their female undercover agents to be your girlfriend for a while and spy on you.
I’m gay. She’ll have no power. They better send a muscle zaddy instead.
Where do I sign up for this?
Some dingdong on Lemmy messaged me to tell me that he had notified the FBI about a Luigi post I made. LOL sure bud.
I can fix her~~
The only thing left is for some bootlicker to wack him in jail and claim it’s suicide, and Luigi will be more famous than Harambe.
I’d argue that he already is. It would just elevate him from legend to marter.
Is this how the bell riots start? I hope so, I’m tired of waiting.
Hopefully inspired by.
marketing hirelings will sabotage the narrative with BS to make it go away.
They’re gonna attempt to do so. There’s no guarantee it will work.
Over advertising has inured most consumers to these practices. Especially younger ones.
id rather people focus on the lessons learned.
as long as this puts fear back into the burgeoise i aint complaining too much though.
Obsess away as long as it leads to more billionaires in the guillotine.
I mean could also go out like the guy who everyone would remember, who burned himself for some cause and everyone just forgot about him. Man, what a thing
I know I certainly will be! 😊
What do you mean trump is a CEO?
hopefully not
can you explain your thought process behind this comment?
Murder bad
Wonder how ol Chuck is handling it
Chuck “Chicanery” McGill?
Chuck Mangione. Jazz musician
Because he’s done more to fix our healthcare system than any politician.
I wouldn’t say fixed as things are the same way as they are, but reminded us how every day we are fucked by oligarchs.
This is a weird time as we just elected them, just look how many billionaires are in trump’s cabinet picks.
To fix is not the same thing as fixed. He’s done more towards fixing the problem. This said, it’s very important to reiterate, as you have, that nearly NOTHING hss still been accomplished.
as we just elected them
That’s because the system is rigged. We can only ever choose between one rich person and another.
You can’t compare Harris and Trump in that regard whatsoever
thats one of the main regards in which they can be compared as similar
Similar in the sense that one has an estimated net worth of three hundred times as much as the other.
Both are equally in the realm of “rich” when compared to people living paycheck to paycheck.
they are both rich as fuck and both help their billionaire friends scam people out of their insurance money.
I mean, Anthem did back down from that stupid policy about time limit anesthesia
We need more Luigis for some more fixing.
He can fix us.
No shit… The gaping hole is the fact rich fucks are all we have to vote for. The President that recently won is the biggest example of undeserved wealth and power ever.
Tell ya what. I’m struggling to make rent right now. Working 6 days a week, living alone, just keeping my head above water.
2028, everybody vote for me, and I’ll run on the platform of giving rich people the middle finger.
Like Robin Hood…except vulgar.
I’d vote for you. Especially if by middle finger you mean 90% top marginal tax rate.
You won me over
You have my vote
And my axe!
You can’t afford to even run. You gonna start a gofundme?
Robin Fucking Hood? RFH!!! It has s ring! Sure I’ll vote for you!
If someone ran for governor of NY on a platform of giving Luigi a full pardon, they would win in a landslide.
In theory, couldn’t Luigi run for president from jail?
In theory, yes!
Yeah. And at this point he could win.
You are delusional if you think that elections are not just a horse race for the rich and that common people have any power. If common people interests were what drives elections you would have had free healthcare, free education, worker right and more like a century ago.
Eh, feels very populist and single issue. What’s your plan for healthcare like?
Give it to the people who need it.
Tbf whatever they come up with will most likely be better than whats currently happening.
You could invent a better political system by tattooing every political idea onto your skin and passing whichever words get zits into law, so obviously it goes without saying
you had me at “gaping hole”
We need to bring back “No taxation without representation” because rich fucks sure as hell can’t fairly represent the rest of us.
Well you see the problem is that its ‘no taxation for the represented’ oops.
This will probably be taken down, but psychology is what I do so here it is. This is not endorsement this is an explanation as to why there’s different sentiment for this shooting.
This was stated in Trevor Noah’s latest podcast in open discussion. Josh Johnson raises the point. Most gun violence stories on the news, people personally feel threatened. Outraged that they or theirs could be at a music festival, a movie, at school. Most assholes with a gun are killing innocent people, never mind all the other bits. And most are clearly a little “crazy.”
This was targeted, killer on killer, no collateral (death/injury) damage. The CEO had kids that’s the collateral damage. There’s even a lady with coffee who walks on scene then nopes out unharmed.
This isn’t endorsement. This WHY the public as a whole doesn’t seem to mind. The guy who died killed thousands. That solves the innocent part. The killer doesn’t feel threatening to any of us. Because he’s not. That solves the threat. As for sanity, gun arguments aside, the manifesto isn’t unhinged.
And so we find ourselves in an unusual space. Understandably so. This is new.
No I didn’t read the article.
The CEO had kids that’s the collateral damage.
Given his falling out with his ex-wife and penchant for alcoholism, they’re arguably better off without him, assuming he wasn’t already a deadbeat dad.
Having a wife and kids is not a free pass, and is no ethical shield. Fight me. Little Jimmy can cry about it in his nepo baby Ferrari.
As for sanity, gun arguments aside, the manifesto isn’t unhinged.
Just curious, what do you mean by “gun arguments aside”?
I’m a gun owner. There is a subset of people who think that alone makes you unhinged as a human being.
Luigi is just crazy enough to do what he did (allegedly). Probably not even a gun owner beyond an engineer guy makes this tool/thing on his printer and then learns how to become proficient using that tool/thing. I don’t think Luigi was LARPing training exercises with an AK, with friends, in the northern MI woods. I think he probably approached it the same way the rest of us would approach learning Linux for our next PC build.
I see, thanks for the clarification! I thought you were referring to the actual manifesto, and I was going to point out that the supposed real one didn’t mention guns at all, but if I recall correctly the fake one did. So never mind me.
Shit, now I’m wondering. I’m talking about the pseudo apologetic one that talks about printing the gun. Not being the best person to decide this, etc.
Oh, I think that’s the real one. Really short, only mentions CAD instead of actually printing the gun, and refers to Moore who can explain things better.
On that note, Moores reaction is interesting.
Sure. Can you explain why this guy gets charged with terrorism, but school shooters and Jan 6ers don’t?
Perception management, probably. I thought terrorism applied to upsetting state entities not private ones. How, by any stretch of the imagination, is a private health insurance company part of the United States government? It’s bizarre. Jan 6 would fall under that umbrella for sure.
What do you think?
The killer is not threatening to you until semeone decides that you deserve to be killed.
semeone decides
I would simply not deny Luigi his health care. And I’d sleep easy.
Someone else may decide to kill you for a different reason.
That’s already true though. Anyone can kill anyone. It just costs the killer their freedom or their life.
That’s a pretty dumb argument, this was a targeted killing. You’d be supportive of killing a major terrorist right? Most would, because the terrorist is evil and kills thousands of Innocents… Well it’s literally no different here. They can be against murder and yet still support killing a terrorist, which is what a Healthcare CEO is.
That’s a risk we’ve always lived with.
So you’re upset that we killed Osama Bin Ladin then?
From what I can tell, Osama bin Laden was killed legally.
Found the CEO!
If the person you’re replying to was a health insurance CEO I would be extremely supportive of that.
I would say that if you find this particular killer’s motives personally threatening, you should probably resign from your day job and move into your bunker.
Yes, exactly. I don’t think there is anyone in the world who knows me and believes that I, specifically, deserve to be killed. I think almost every person feels the same way. The rare exception being someone who has intentionally profoundly harmed or killed people.
Have you killed thousands of people through insurance denials to make a quick buck? No?
Then you’re fine.
Someone, maybe, a fair point. It will probably happen at work if at all given the boring, “helper” life I lead.
But not this guy. That’s the salient point.
That’s the point. “WHY” did they decide it had to be you.
You mean someone like Brian Thompson?
You mean Brian Robert Thompson?
It’s a long standing tradition to refer to serial killers by their full name. Think John Wayne Gacy. It seems appropriate here.
I haven’t killed tens of thousands of sick people so I’m safe.
Someone might decide that something else you did is wrong.
That could happen any day but how is that fact relevant?
Do you want to live in a society where anyone can kill you because they think you’re a bad person?
No, but I don’t want to live in a society where people in power just let people in need die
That’s today. That’s our current reality. That’s the society that I already live in, because I’m a horrible, nasty, evil person who rides a bicycle to get places.
I’m in Madison, Wisconsin, too, so it’s rather fresh in my mind that anyone can kill me just randomly out of the blue.
I would absolutely love to live in a different world where everything is marijuana, video games and puppies. But we don’t live there, which is why the work class must remain armed no matter the pretext.
I could get shot in a school shooting that wasnt prevented because despite the outrage of the Democratic party no one wanted to impliment perimeter fences, check points, metal detectors, or building a police station next door or inside every school of the nation. It would still be true that the working class must remain armed.
We live in the shitter multiverse, and it is not a good place to be. Accept this fact of life.
Any idiot in a car can kill me at any time, because he’s getting road rage. I’m living in Europe, grew up in the 80s where nuclear war was a very real danger that could break out any moment, vaporizing all the cities. Even though we were allies of the US, highways were prepared to be outfitted with nuclear mines so the Russians couldn’t roll all over Western Europe. We have a war right now next to our countries which could turn into WW3 at any time. A close friend of mine is Bosnian, she has seen the fighting in the Balkans few years agom
People kill each other all the time, because they consider each other bad persons. I just refuse to live in fear.
And the longer I live, the more I believe in violence as a legitimate defense. If someone shot Putin tomorrow, I would be happy. If someone had shot Hitler in the 30s the would would probably have been a better place.
So where is the line that divides killing someone is a good thing vs a bad thing? I used to believe it is always evil, but I can’t anymore.
We already do. You can already buy a gun, get it the same day, and straight up shoot someone with minimal barriers. What are you on about? Children are sacrificed every day and now that a CEO is dead its a huge problem?
That’s all of human history and will never change.
However, now that the untouchable monsters that run things are getting a taste, things are just a tiny bit better.
You watch yourself on that slippery slope now.
I see you getting downvoted but a lot of doctors get death threats too, and while everyone seems to have a horror story about a doctor they didn’t like, I’m pretty sure most are the scapegoats of a broken system. So yeah, while Luigi’s target was well-chosen, I don’t trust every vigilante to be as smart.
a lot of doctors get death threats too
I gotta wonder at the folks who have bombed (or threatened to bomb) abortion clinics and been lionized by pro-Life advocates. Even granted clemency by ultra-right wing Republican governors.
None of them seem particularly enthusiastic about this slaying, though.
So yeah, while Luigi’s target was well-chosen, I don’t trust every vigilante to be as smart.
The starkest comparison I’ve seen is Daniel Perry - who strangled a man to death on the subway - getting box seats with the President/VP and a full throated cheer from folks on the right.
Meanwhile, Luigi has enormous mainstream appeal, but enjoys virtually no positive coverage among liberals on the left.
The division is stark. It’s very obvious that vigilantism is encouraged by the state when it targets certain people. CEOs just aren’t on the approved list.
That’s why I think we should have a crowd funding campaign to build a big bronze statue of the guy. You know, those aren’t as expensive as you might think. Some searching suggests they can be built for $25k-250k. That seems well within the range of a crowd funding campaign. And unlike copy cat attacks or making death threats, there’s nothing illegal about building a statue to someone. At the same time, imagine what a message it would send if 100,000 people each gave a few dollars to build a statue to Luigi.
As far as location, I can think of two. One would be as close to the shooting site as possible. The other? On a main road outside of United Healthcare’s headquarters in Minnesota. I want ever UHC employee to have to drive past a big statue of Luigi as they go into work each day. A durable reminder of just what we think of them.
And if some vandals destroy the statue? We’ll build it again, but even BIGGER.
