There were plenty of people mad about most of those.
Can we please stop calling them “African American??” Nobody likes that. Not even black people like saying or being called “African American,” for several reasons.
I am white but I sit on a board of directors for a majority-black arts org, the founder who is a black woman uses the term African-American.
Not wanting to speak for anyone, but it’s probably a mix of your age, social class, background, culture and context that may affect that choice.
Sure, but reason still stands that not all black people identify with Africa, and also not all black people are American.
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We do need some way to qualify them. They’re not just regular Americans, like us, due to the excess of pigment. Perhaps, Black-American? Negro-American?
Black. They call themselves black. And everyone else is safe to call them black too.
Yeah, i know - im joking. Separately - wtf do you mean “they”?
Because if I was black I would’ve said “we.”
Probably shouldn’t be speaking for them then…
I do this thing called listening. I’m simply quoting what other black people have said.
So, you’ve got a black friend, you say?
race is a social construct
I get the point of the meme and all that, but that whole thing about calling out Scarlet Witch for being played by someone that’s white is kinda troublesome to me.
Wanda’s dad is Magneto, a Jewish white guy. Her mom isn’t mentioned much but she’s Romani, which is its own ethnicity; and ethnicity is not a skin tone.
Americans are the only ones who regularly equate skin colour with ethnicity.
Yea, many other cultures associate it with wealth/class. They are so much smarter.
one of the many areas most Muricans are ignorant about
Yeah Romani in Western Europe are often white passing or straight up white, and mircrakagovia or wherever they are from is quite obviously an eastern Europe analogue.
Scarlet witch is probably white, maybe a bit swarthy
Me looking at Idris Elba as Heimdall: damn good, give me more
Idris is my man-crush. I wanted him to be Bond
Love him in any roles where he uses his regular British accent. Let’s not make him do Baltimore accent ever again. In fact, probably best we forget that happened l tbh
Oh it’s even worse than that: they hate live action Ariel because she’s “ugly”
sex+race racism is horrifically nasty, yet more common and more “accepted” in my experience.
Also, I will leave this here:
Fortunately, it’s just hypothetical, that live action doesn’t actually exist…
As to your picture, everyone hated that.
Would they today, though?
I feel like there would be conservative ‘backlash against backlash’ over racebending cast.
do you remember the original animated “Lion King”?
all the voice actors for the Hyenas were black stereotypes…
I’ll give you that for Shenzi (Whoopi Goldberg), but that’s a big stretch for Banzai (Cheech Marin) and Ed (Jim Cummings). I don’t think Marin can play anything other than a mexican stereotype, and Ed was just a moron.
they originally wanted Cheech and Chong… they were not going for the educated but poor stereotypes here
I’m sorry but if you think that Zuko is not a hero, you must have sopped watching Avatar after the third episode.
I think this is comparing it directly to the movie that doesn’t exist where he’s 100% not a hero
I have no knowledge about a thing which doesn’t exist. I can’t even see the second row of images.
Weird, isn’t it?
I mean, I’ve watched it through many times, but tha’s not really the point here. They switched up the appearance of the whole Fire Nation demographic because… Well…
I’m sure I’m missing something super obvious, but can you explain the image?
The big panel is a bit clearer:
Basically the original heroes were vaguely Tibetan (Aang) or dark-skinned Inuit, but for the movie (that doesn’t exist) they quite consistently color coded the good guys as white and the bad guys as darker skinned; the total opposite.
I got that part. The part that was confusing me was Aang’s “hero” font being a different color than the other two. I think I’m reading too much into it, maybe
I think is just because of the nation, Katara and Soka water tribe = blue, Zuko fire = red and Aaang air = yellow(air nation use yellow robes)
Oh, duh! I’m such a dumbass lol
What Zero said, or maybe it’s just because Aang is the main protaganist/Chosen One.
I’m such a dumbass, I didn’t even think of that. I’ve seen it. One of my favorites
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Though the director is South Asian himself, so I guess in a way he did that to increase representation, messed-up as that sounds.
Colorism, the favoritism towards lighter skinned people against darker skinned people, has a long history in India, and is still very much a problem today.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200818-colourism-in-india-the-people-fighting-light-skin-bias
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8932098/
https://www.stearthinktank.com/post/colorism-in-indian-society
You’ll be surprised how many Indians hate other Indians. Not saying M Night does though. I mean just look at how many Indians are in the Trump admin. They get successful and then abandon their roots. Btw I’m Indian.
I don’t think it’s an Indian hating Indian thing. I think some (often better off) Indians and their families have a propensity to lick the boots of certain evil white people because its what worked out for them during the colonial era.
There’s always going to be people that side with the bad guys and in India’s case, for the past few centuries, people that sided with the bad guys often attained wealth and luxury beyond what other Indians had. Even if those bad guys were committing a few genocides along the way.
It sucks. Its a very “fuck you, got mine” attitude but I can’t think anything more American / Western than that.
Oh, I’m from the North of England. I know haha
Compare the skin tones of the actors they cast for the live action compared to the original anime
If copyright didn’t last forever, anyone could make a little mermaid movie with the main character as whatever race they prefer. Its been 35 years, time to release this into the public domain.
The copyright does not apply to the Andersen original anymore. You just have to make your own twist on the story.
I want a JAWS style retelling of the Little Mermaid. Then a porn parody version, because I want what I want
The Little Mermaid - The Eroge (I have a feeling it already exists)
The Little Mermaid was H. C. Andersen, not the brothers Grimm
There was no misremembering of information in Ba Sing Se!
I remember having an argument about the little mermaid movie years ago; the guy was complaining that a black lady was cast and I had to ask: “what do you care? You’re not gonna watch it”; he looked stunned for a second and then said “yeah but still…”, to which I had to reiterate “WHAT DO YOU CARE? YOU’RE NOT GONNA WATCH IT!”
Like why are grown men complaining about it at all?! We’re not the target demographic!
it’s even worse than that cos the original text never said ariel’s human version race, they just assumed it lol.
and before anyone says yes but its written by a dane, my response is yes but it’s a fairy tale, anything is possible. why assume and then get angry based on your assumption?
To be fair, skin tone usually develops due to exposure to the sun. If anything, mermaids probably are tanned on top (backs) and pale on their stomachs. Like great whites
historically accurate Ariel where she’s just a dolphin
and before anyone says yes but its written by a dane, my response is yes but it’s a fairy tale, anything is possible. why assume and then get angry based on your assumption?
what slurs were used in her description?
I don’t know if anyone outside Australia knows Fern Gully… But anyway, years ago, watching that movie with friends I casually suggested that possibly fairies in Australia would more likely be indigenous looking than white, and got told off for “making everything political”. And by migrant friends.
One of whom used to get quite offended at any implication that they were anything other than Australian.
A certain group of people care a lot about this, the rest of the world isn’t as insane, that’s all.
I dislike it no matter the color for most things. There are plenty good actors that would match a characters ethnicity but they decide to go with the opposite of that. Now I’m all for representation and stuff, but when Hollywood does this it either feels forced or ignorant
It can often feel forced. That doesn’t mean it always is
Casting a brown skinned woman as Snow White will never not be silly.
It’s similar to Jack Reacher, it’s made very clear in the books he’s a tall, physically intimidating person. And they cast Tom Cruise to play him.
Would be better if they actually made new movies with different cultures stories instead of just remaking the old shit too.
They do this outrage bait on purpose though. American society is brain rotted and we need a cause to support or hate. Even in children’s movies.
“Uh Mr Drake”
who gives a piss, like genuinely
beyond her name, is there any reason why snow white should be white?
and, like, even then. “brown skinned”. Zegler is super pale, you’re just mad she’s not a WASP
anyways fuuuuuck disney for a bunch of reasons, but “casting POC for traditionally white roles” is not one of them.
Pretty sure the original text describes her skin as white as snow
In that case no human fits the description, not even albinos who are more pink than “white as snow”.
Well, apart maybe from black metal artists.
fuck it, black metal snow white. doing something original for once
Even the tale is perfect. Witchcraft, hate, murder, life in the forest, fantasy dwarves, a tomb, and torture. It hardly gets more black metal than that.
I’d watch that.
Grown men having strong opinions on how Disney Princesses should look will never not be silly.
There’s no reason for it to matter to them.
Thinking something is “silly” doesn’t sound like a very strong opinion lol
“Strong Opinions”, or just find it ridiculous?
I’m sure there’s a few that were upset, but I think most people were just amused.
Ow. Fuck. I rolled my eyes so hard that I hurt my head.
Woah I’m totally convinced now you’re so right actually
the gatekeeper has arrived
People definitely made fun of Johnny Depp as a native American.
Made fun of, yes, but there was no outrage, calls for boycotts, etc.
I remember both of those, in addition to the ridicule. Just wasn’t as loud.
Who would do it? The crazy, easily offended, superficial and impulsive Native Americans? There’s only one tribe that gets fuming mad and violent about this kind of ridiculous shit…
he’s like 1/8 or 1/16 native, so despite being far removed from indigenous people and culture white americans have a tendency to see any claim to cultural heritage as valid, so the outrage wasn’t as big as normal
It’s old rage bait sir but it checks out
I’m sorry, but romani is just another word for white. If we make Italians and Greeks white, then romani are white too.
I know it’s hard to keep track of every different eurotrash breed, but please make an effort in the future
Romani come from India you dumbfuck
I seem to recall some anger about the Ancient One casting.
They were like we wanted to swap the gender but we’re worried a strong Asian lady would be too Dragon Lady Stereotype. Like fuck off and cast Michelle Yeoh, she would have nailed it.
They also wanted to cut Wong, like WTF? Though ultimately making him a peer/equal instead of a servant was a great change.
They also wanted to cut Wong
I like my Wongs uncut tyvm
That’s because woman
Tilda Swinton has always, and will forever, exceed gender limitations.
Still fuckin’ hot in a Tilda Swinton kind of way though.
I’m not into translucent people
Yeah there was, but I very much doubt it was from the same soyjack types who complained about the little mermaid and snow white
