A platform without ads or evil corpo ownership? Yeah, I’d scared too.

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    Like I get the meme, but maybe rethink it? It’s also giving

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      Star Ship Troopers is basically American Fascists In Space. The movie is tongue in cheek. (Though in the book, the author is quite serious).

      So scenes from the movie are going to give a Nazi vibe, but isn’t about supporting Nazis.

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      Yes, we are the baddies, from Reddit 's pov anyway. We will burn down their corporate greed and glass towers! And we shall so it from points that nice desk chair!

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    Lemmy doesnt have any proper discussions though. Its just memes. Personally i have to check reddit to actually get proper content to learn something from.

    But still, Lemmy is at least not big tech!

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      There’s no lack of people willing to have discourse. No one is asking the questions.

      People go to Reddit with hard questions (an other things) they want to crowdsource

      People don’t come to Lemmy with it, but other than not knowing which tech forum to ask it in, there’s no reason they can’t.

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          very true, but slowly getting negated by deleted posts and militant moderation, maybe we’ll hit a middleground eventually

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      What sort of discussion are you seeking? I’m spending most of my time in the comments, droppin truth bombs on dey heads.

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      I don’t agree. Do you mean that you require us to do it or are you just not engaged in it?

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      There are serious discusions, you just have to find them. Mostly news and technology articles, but there could be more.

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        The thing is it’s super hard to start a niche community due to a fundamental issue with federation. Which instance do you start the community in, and how do people find it?

        With reddit you just needed /r/[obscurehobby]. In lemmy you need to check all the instances, and you may find a different versions of the community, but all of them are dead with like 2 posts from 8 months ago because they never got the critical mass needed to catch on because the community was split.

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          Reddit also has the problem that if someone makes a community and starts moderating like a dinghole, it can be hard to get people to join one with better moderation.

          With federation you can have the same name multiple times, so when people search “[hobby]” they can see all of them.

          Then you could have a merged view of all the [hobby] from different sources, and if a mod who arbitrarily decides to interpret the rules unfairly or err on the side of permanent bans without discussion, warnings, or recourse, you can at least still interact with other [hobby].

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          https://piefed.social/communities

          Piefed search is your answer. You can filter by activity. It also has feeds too that are topic themed.

          I’d actually argue its way easier now to start new communities on the Fediverse than Reddit, for a variety of reasons.

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            That kinda highlights the problem. Search “scuba”. There are 4 separate communities:

            There are 39 total posts between them, but the one tied with the most posts has zero active users. The one with the most comments ranks 3rd in posts and only has one active user. The one with the most active user only has 2 comments according to the search.

            If I search the same term on sync while signed into .world, I get different communities and very different user counts for those that are in both searches:

            None of these communities are really active. But between them they would have had have the user base to get it going. Finding a community and getting the critical mass needed for it to thrive is made much harder with this amount of fragmentation.

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              Oh I agree, that’s why some users push for consolidation of communities into one single community. I’m just noting that abandoned communities on the fediverse are better presented on Piefed as if there is an active community in the topic you’re looking for, it will be obviously visible ahead of all the others.

              As for reddit, there’s not really much left to make on Reddit anymore. Almost every name is taken and sat on by moderators - and it’s pretty hard to meaningfully advertise any new community.

              Not that I think Scuba Diving has enough base users on the Fediverse to begin with at this point. Most of those users subscribed are likely abandoned accounts.

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                It’s the reddit community I most consistently miss. The community there is huge and very active, as are spinoff subs like underwater photography.

                But I decided to leave reddit in 2023 with the API changes, and I’ve resisted going back. I like Lemmy, but I feel like I just have to keep my feed set to all, whereas on reddit I had a highly curated list of subs.

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      I agree with the criticism of the content, especially since we solved a lot of these problems on reddit years ago, but as I’ve said on here before, we need a critical mass in order to achieve the kind of platform we’re looking to replicate. If lemmy keeps growing, it might come. Acculturation might not be possible though.

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        But Lemmy isn’t growing. In fact, it’s declining: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=1000

        (When looking at these stats, remember that the post and comment counts are all-time comments/posts that are available at that specific day on the platform. In June 2024 there were more total comments than now, and in November 2024 there were more posts than there are now.

        And all numbers are including the NSFW instance.

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      Be the change you wanna see. They set this up to be as user driven as possible. You can start communities, discussions, all of it. I started a Zombie community to have somewhere to discuss my take on season one of Fear the Walking Dead. Not much engagement yet but ya gotta start somewhere. It’ll never take off if everyone who isn’t permabanned keeps slipping off to reddit.

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        One thing I find satisfying is noticing how much more intelligent people are here than on reddit. It speaks volumes regarding the types of people who get permabanned from [insert any scathing adjectives of your choice] Reddit.

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      There is discussion but the userbase’s interests arent super wide so at the moment its techy and politicsy. Which is fine at least we arent following reddit which started out with racists, atheiests and child porn.

      I’ve recently been checking out reddit to see discussion on a few topics not covered here, MMA and beyond all reason. I’m shocked by how low quality the comments are. I can open a 900 comment thread and not see a single comment that discusses the thread topic or discusses anything.

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        Honestly, that’s not accidental. Reddit’s a hot mess right now…

        Once the IPO dropped last year, the algorithm started steering users to the least productive, most rage-bait inducing content. I was on many art-related subs and within 6 months, my feed pivoted to the political feeds… MurderedByWords, LeopardsAteMyFace and others. The AppleHelp and VintageGaming and VintageApple where I had the best, most in-depth conversations all but vanished from my home page feed.

        Oddly enough subs like anime_titties (which was non-US based global-only news with the sub’s title used to keep the 50-cent Army from seeing it as the Great Firewall doesn’t like anime_titties) also went down my feed list. Then mystery subs with really rage-inducing content like NewsHub which was lots of middle-east and Gaza related stuff appeared - and I hadn’t ever visited that sub… stuff that I han’t even heard of showed up.

        NGL, I fell right into it. It’s slick, that’s for sure.

        Eventually the rage-bait posts got me… I had started to get snarkier and snarkier and the mod-bots bumped me yesterday - within a minute - of making a metaphorically mean post. I spent the evening on old reddit getting at the unarchived content I’d posted and manually deleted it. Then managed to get to the delete account page and left. 14 years. Oh well.

        The AI they’re using isn’t as well trained as they think, (hence the Reddit stock tanking in the past 2 weeks) and of course Steven MIller (the real POTUS right now) is looking to go after the mainstream social media sites.

        It’s getting a bit schizophrenic, what with the fear of the Trump Administration meddling on one hand and the algorithm on the other driving engagement by highlighting the EXACT strident content that makes it a target.

        Oooooffffff. Fun times ahead.

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          Oddly enough subs like anime_titties (which was non-US based global-only news with the sub’s title used to keep the 50-cent Army from seeing it as the Great Firewall doesn’t like anime_titties) also went down my feed list.

          This is actually not quite correct. It may be a side effect but originally that sub was created because moderation sucked in a different global news sub. If I remember correctly that sub started getting flooded with lewd anime so the new sub was created for global news but named ironically in the tradition of r\marijuanaenthusiasts and r\trees

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        Atheists are way less likely to create child porn than a catholic priest.

        Don’t make me pull out citations and evidence based data in this thread. I’ll do it.

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          He’s referencing /r/jailbait which was super popular on Reddit till they banned it.

          I found the existence of the sub fuckjng appalling but it was also arguably a big part of the enshittifstion of Reddit. Like. I hate that it existed but it wasn’t illegal.

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            It wasnt illegal if people only posted girls over 18 but thats not the case. There were a ton of under 18s being posted. When it was banned the sub pivoted to some like “fashion” sub and continued posting under 18s and 18s for plausible deniability.

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              I stand corrected then.

              I thought its whole loophole thing was that it was legal which is why something that disgusting wasn’t removed.

              I don’t know how they didn’t remove something that was actually illegal from the site earlier. Double gross. Evil. Ew.

              I doubly don’t understand why something that was illegal wasn’t removed WAY earlier.

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                The issue is when the entire sub is filled with people who look young enough to be under 18 its very hard for admins to tell when they’re actually under 18. After the ban the fashion sub posted people clearly under 18 and used the excuse that its fine because they’re clothed and they’re just reviewing the fashion.

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          you can pull out all the citations you want but it wont be relevant. Early reddit was rife with cp.

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            And there’s no reason to assume modern reddit now is somehow less atheistic than early reddit.

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              I dont care for this point, I never intended to claim that it has less atheists now. I only wanted to describe how reddit started.

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                What I am getting at is that your insinuation that atheists spread child porn specifically is pretty baseless. If atheists are just as numerous on Reddit as a proportion of the userbase now as they were in the early days of reddit, and there’s less child porn on there now - then they were obviously not the cause.

                Moreover, I would guess that a majority of the Fediverse are atheists.

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                  yeah i never made that point. I was vaguely mentioning the popular topics on the site at the time.

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        Which is fine at least we arent following reddit which started out with racists, atheiests and child porn.

        What are you on about? There’s tons of atheists still on reddit now. They don’t spread child porn.

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          I think they might be talking about the “atheist culture” that used to exist on reddit back during the New Atheist Movement. This might seem unnecessary but maybe we should distinguish between atheism and Atheism, since that’s usually what people are objecting to.

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                That still seems outrageous to compare a smug new atheist to someone who posts child porn

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                  Ok so I don’t want to go to bat too much for an opinion I was mostly speculating on (since that person never clarified), but the atheist community on reddit was a lot worse than just smug pricks back then. Serious sexism, racism, defense of gay marriage but tons of homophobia, etc. This is what I assume the comment OP was talking about.

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          Reddit removed /r/atheists from :r/all years ago so it’s not as visible now.

          Arguably a big part of the enshittification imo.

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          I joined Reddit in like 2008, and it definitely felt similar to Lemmy, and my understanding was that even then it was already starting to noticeably change.

          I think the culture shift was related to the Digg exodus

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      This site is just way too diffuse and has too few real people actively participating. It is also missing some very basic things that would accelerate engagement. Right now, your profile doesnt tally your upvotes. This should be a pretty simple fix and would promote visibility into who the top contributors are and the perceived quality of their upvotes.

      Organized events would also keep momentum going. I remember back when reddit had AMAs that were actually interesting and fun instead of thinly veiled opportunities to plug a recent project while talking to someone’s PR manager.

      The aesthetic could also use a revamp. Nothing tailored to smartphone usage (blech), but maybe something that fills the screen by default, and improves readability? Comment sections are less easy to follow than on pre-IPO reddit. Native hoverzoom would also be nice. Is there anywhere to actually have an exchange with the people running Lemmy?

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        You will find that there are reasons behind all of this. For one thing Lemmy is developed using Rust, which even experienced C++ programmers do not enjoy using, and for another there’s tankies and only slightly less relevant, the amount of time that the developers spend moderating their tankie instance leaves little time to actually make changes to the software. Requests go unmet for YEARS, while other requests actively move backwards in functionality, if by forwards you mean democratic principles and backwards is towards greater levels of authoritarian control and less freedom by the end users.

        Seriously, as others are saying, try PieFed. It releases new features practically every other week, and has a way better interface. You can even help by designing themes or your own custom CSS. And you can still access the entire Threadiverse, exactly as you can with Lemmy, except with better control (more functional, e.g. more fine-grained) such as the Topic/Feeds that are user customizable and shareable.

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          Thanks, that was a helpful reply. I am not exactly a tankie, but I am actively trying to avoid the more right wing pockets of the internet that are actively avoiding reddit. The venn diagram is small, I think.

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            One problem with tankies though is that they basically are right-wingers, just on the left, i.e. they are in form if not content.

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            And then both sides of that extremist divide drives away the 80% or so in the middle somewhere, leaving the platform empty due to the “Nazi bar effect” (you may choose to ignore the actual Nazis as you sit in your own little corner in a bar, but how can you invite your friends, especially Jewish ones, to come to such?)

            Purity testing will continue until morale improves (i.e. short sighted thinking does not realize that certain modes of treating especially newcomers to a place will effectively kill it off, eventually leaving solely the “pure” remaining - except nobody is truly pure so realistically it will leave almost nobody).

            There are many true leftist places here on the Threadiverse btw including slrpnk.net and dbzero. And there, I just did purity testing myself:-), although due to the Intolerance Paradox this must be done in order for any type of community to be made.

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              Maybe I dont actually know what a tankie is. What is commonly understood to be a tankie here on this platform? I thought it was specifically the subset of ML who thought that stalin was right to send in the tanks? Am I missing something?

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                A tankie is generally considered someone so immersed deeply into their echo chamber of alternative facts that they can deny not merely the morality or the consequences but the actual and literal validity of occurrence of events such as the Holocaust or the Tiananmen Square Massacre (the tanks were there but killed nobody on that day, etc.). They tend to be exceedingly pro-authoritarian, even while claiming to be “communist” or “leftist”, but redefining those terms to fit their particular worldview. So e.g. Ukraine invaded Russia rather than the other way around and so on. A hallmark of a tankie space is that nothing bad is ever allowed to be spoken about Russia, China, or North Korea.

                I suppose claiming that Stalin had the right to kill people is a technically accurate form of tankie by the standard dictionary definition of that term, but that is fairly tame compared to what goes on across the Threadiverse, so much so that such a person would barely qualify unless they acted to prevent anyone else from holding an opposing viewpoint. Also, while some instances are legit tankies (namely Lemmygrad.ml and Lemmy.ml), troll instances such as hexbear.net only appear at first to be anything other than argumentative echo chambers, see e.g. Chapotraphouse@hexbear.net (defederated from on both of our instances, bc of the aforementioned trolling

                I could link you so many posts to explain further - such as this classic Lemmy.ml tankie censorship problem demonstrating how someone can get banned from all communities (in other cases, even those they’ve never so much as heard of) on Lemmy.ml at once - but also there’s an entire community dedicated to this topic at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works. If you are interested I highly recommend checking it out. It is perhaps the top issue across all of the Threadiverse, after complaining about Reddit of course:-).

                Blocking hexbear.net and Lemmygrad.ml from my feed (when I was on an instance that had not defederated from them yet) improved my experience on the Threadiverse by 99%, and blocking lemmy.ml by a further 99%. It might be the echo chamber effect but whatever it is, the most trollish comments tend to come from those places. Note that you on Lemmy cannot do a true block of an instance - like so many other features that is something that PieFed and very few third party apps offers but Lemmy and most apps lack - but even so it might help a little.

                Slrpnk.net and lemmy.dbzer0.com are widely considered actual leftist but not tankie instances, if you need a comparison.

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        no carma is a deliberate feature

        makes the comments more of a sensible people talking, less of a standup show.

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          From a practical standpoint, there is a karma system on this site, it just is not implemented - every comment and post has upvotes. That those upvotes arent recorded on the user level is a choice.

          It is always a balance of features. I dont necessarily agree with your framing, but even if I did, the community needs to ask itself if the goal is to be a tiny, uncompetitive alternative to reddit, or do we want to be relevant and deal with the consequences of more diverse participation? Incentives like the possibility of notoriety can motivate positive contributions as well. Some people want to be recognized for their meaningful contributions as much as people do not want to be downvoted for unhelpful contributions.

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          They could make it optional to each seperate instance in the Fediverse. I could see it being popular on Lemmy for the Dopamine hit. Less so on some of the more focused or political instances.

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            then, e question:

            do we count to profile carma points received from no-carma instances?

            If so, people from profile-carma instances would still be prone to cheap attention farming.

            How it is now is perfect personaly for me: there are still discussions, less popular, more disagreeaple comments are still at the bottom, and you still can see, how controversial your opinion is. And, as i already said, this system still removes whole cast of cheap carma farmers, making interactions more meaningful on average.

            Lemmy is still prettx underground, but let’s be honest, it’d probably stay undergound. This site is a bunch of nerds dreaming of a future without corpo dictature on what should and what should not be. It’s good to dream big, but dreaming about becoming another reddit is kinda stupid if you ask me.

            You wanna make lemmy more popular? Talk about it over other social media in a good light (not just fucking tankie reddit), repost screenshots and memes from over there, etc. Profile-visible carma is just not it.

            but then, lemmy is foss, you can do it yourself, if you really believe in your idea.

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        Personally I’m really glad that we don’t have karma farming on Lemmy. It creates a lot of content for reddit, but it’s mostly regurgitated low quality filler.

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        You might try piefed? It’s a fediverse platform so still links/syncs etc with lemmy and everywhere else but the UI is nice and I think it does a lot of the stuff you mention (except for the ama style stuff.) I followed PugJesus here (and am using Piefed right now) and exported all my feeds etc so the switch was relatively painless.

        Feel free to reach out if you have any questions etc. I probably won’t be able to help but uhhh, I’ll commiserate?

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        The aesthetic could also use a revamp. Nothing tailored to smartphone usage (blech), but maybe something that fills the screen by default, and improves readability?

        I don’t get this. old.reddit, whilst functional is dated. People use it because they’re used to it - but I wouldn’t characterise it as an amazing design.

        new.reddit is appalling. Piefed and Lemmy are by no means perfect. No site is. I think people really overstate the necessity of having an amazing aesthetic or user-interface.

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    Fun fact, I got banned from reddit the other day for saying something sarcastic. So I did the appeal thing, but all I said was “Fuck you, you fucking gaggle of cave brained cunts.” And… they reversed the ban. So I guess, they dont even bother reading whatever shit you write in the appeal, they just look at the comment and uphold or rescind the bot ban. Pricks.

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      I’m surprised they even looked. I’ve never cared about getting subreddit banned but was always careful to avoid a sitewide ban. Not one of my appeals was ever upheld.

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    It happened?

    That’s incredible! May reddit become a husk filled with moms from Facebook.

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      AITA? I called the cops on my neighbour because her tan was too dark after she came back from visiting her mom in {literally any country south of the States}

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        Cindy didn’t come home until 3 pm and then they had an argument! This morning I saw they got a new car in the driveway and Fred wasn’t there!

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    Reddit seems to be in purge mode so that the AI doesn’t develop too many problematic leftist opinions. I was looking back to an old post critizing CS Lewis and the comments were absolutely nuked since my last visit.

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      Does it have to try hard? Didn’t leftist remove themselves from a lot of places and purge their own comments?

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        Didn’t leftist remove themselves from a lot of places and purge their own comments?

        There’s definitely been an Exodus since 2020. But prior to that, it was a long running guerrilla war of leftists fighting to find footholds in the system and evade bans, while Reddit Corporate implemented increasingly draconian purges.

        Less of a problem since 2022, so they pivoted to going after anyone solidly progressive. Then anyone left-liberal. Now anyone who isn’t an outright MAGAt.

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          The response though is interesting to me because when the right faced the same pressure it rallied them. They made so much noise and used every lever they could. Like the littlest 86 year old Republican grandpa took to online accounts and became obsessed with making sure people could say racist facist bullshit online. But people on the left retreated. We said things like “don’t wressle with pigs” like we’re better than it all. When I bring this up to people the say “well they’re just funded” but it’s like they don’t understand that funding probably paid for a lot of accounts to convince us to retreat. My 2 cents anyways.

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            I think people on the left retreated because their ideals don’t involve violence and hate in the first place, so they just didn’t want to be tangled up in it. I’m only so motivated to interact with nazi scum, I’d much rather not, so yeah, they can have their spaces because I don’t have the mental capacity to live my life peacefully and also fight with idiots on the internet.

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              But you understand retreating gives Nazi scum access to more eyes and ears which grows louder and bolder nazi scum. Like you can choose to disengage but it’s only momentarily. It now isn’t just online, you’re probably seeing family and friends or coworkers or random conversations waiting for coffee that sound questionable. It’s easier to put a fire out when it’s smoulder then when it’s engulfing half the forest. You can walk away when it’s smouldering but it’s only going to grow

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                I know, but I also have a life, and I’m just trying to not be fucking angry all the time already, so no, I can’t fight every fucking moment, and currently it’s not the nazis agitating me, it’s you telling me I need to be angry. Don’t fucking tell me what I see with my own eyes in the world I fucking live in, Im quite aware, thanks, and I’d like to perseve as much peace in it as I can.

                Trust me when I say I have to fight on my own terms, if that’s not good enough for you, you can also rot with the nazis

                E: don’t take it personally, I’m more angry with the sentiment than with the person who says it, it ain’t you

                E2: Fuck you got me started LOL. Look, for clarity, I have spent my entire life as the angry righteous idealogue you want people to be, and let me tell you, it has produced nothing but misery in my life, so I’m disengaging with that part of me as best I can. If that’s my story, I imagine other people have similar experiences. Not every fight is with blood, some of them are with compassion and understanding. Those are the ones I want to fight until the bloody fight comes to me

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                  Lol I get it, so no need to apologize. I just think we did it all wrong. We get angry because something is missing from our approach. Like there’s some injustice. I’m not saying people need to be out there every day engaging with toxic assholes or bots. But I do think we all should recognize that not doing that, is helping the spread of these fuckers. One thing I noticed is people of the left had different goals and then people on the right and that burnt them out. The right approached online spaces like they were meeting friends to make fun of and pick on the left. The left was only reacting to things as they happened. They weren’t having fun with any of it.

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            it’s like they don’t understand that funding probably paid for a lot of accounts to convince us to retreat

            Easy to forget that Social Media is a game in which the scores are made up and the points don’t really matter. People just get very tied up in their ahem Social Credit Score as it were. They seem frighteningly quick to torch their own reputations with IRL peers in order to score some cheap digs for the applause of a fully automated audience.

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        He just legitmizes religion via decorated logical fallacies. The go-to intellectual for religious people.

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      right like the actual reason is obvious but what’s the “official” / stated reason?

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      In r/RedditAlternatives they explain that the mod, while still an active account (reportedly posting a lot in r/Lebanon), basically has left r/Lemmy unmoderated. (You can find more details about what happened by visiting r/Lemmy using old reddit, it would seem) So it makes sense actually.

      The fact is, anyone interested in Lemmy isn’t going to be talking about it to Redditors on Reddit in a sub dedicated solely to Lemmy… anymore.

      The Threadiverse won that battle, as much as it can, and now development continues forward with PieFed that is even more highly received and recommended by Redditors (Reddit hates tankies far more than we do here). Thus there is no more need for a r/Lemmy. 🎉🥳

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      Boring answer: a sub having no mods is a typical reason why a sub gets banned.

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        That’s not the answer. It states specifically when a sub is banned for having no mods. The message says it was banned for violating rules.

        I’m guessing they found some trumped up reason to get rid of it.

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      I can never block reddit. My go-to workflow for buying any product is usually:

      1. Perplexity / Claude: “what are some good recommendations for <productX>?”
      2. Skim what it writes, mentally note that it’s probably extrapolating from little data on <productX>
      3. Scroll down to the sources, click on the Reddit ones.
      4. Check that the date is somewhat reasonably in the past (+3yrs is always good)
      5. Scroll to that one single comment that provides insightful feedback

      This is why I never deleted my reddit accounts after I migrated – I just couldn’t throw away all of the hard written insightful comments I’d made there over ~15 years, and knew that an AI (and by extension future me) might find it beneficial.

      (I’m not against AI, I’m against what capitalism is doing with AI)

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        Genuinely curious, theoretically how valuable would a once and done service install of a private open source machine learning model on your local network that can do that skimming functionality be for you? A private box thats setup and just works? Is that even something people would want?

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          Very useful, especially for static pre-2022 information. If these models were <5GB in size, I’d happily have the model always sitting in memory on my raspberry Pi waiting for me to ask it something.

          For newer data though, you cannot beat the army of trawlers and the constant retraining that the commercial models offer… though given the nature of the steadily poisoned information sources post-2022, their effectiveness in this is steadily diminishing.

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        I’m not an anti AI zealot either, but frankly humans can skim search results and “link dive” way better than current LLMs can, if they’re familiar with the web.

        Sometimes I use GLM 4.6’s deep research mode with a link to go off as a supplement (I’d recommend that over Claude; it’s great! And open weights!), but 90% of the time just poking through Google/DDG with a filter to block SEO/AI spam yields better reviews. We can just parse more links and make better snap “credibility” judgements than LLMs can.

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        mine is r/nursing. there’s just not a significant enough presence of any healthcare workers let alone nurses specifically for me to properly commiserate with. Every once in a while I get into a mood to post some memes or otherwise engage but I get a few likes and maybe one comment at most and wind up giving up after a few days.

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        I don’t think they actually delete any of that stuff when you delete your account, though.

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    I’m fairly certain linking Lemmy, even once, yields a shadow ban.

    I cant even make a new Reddit account for anything, even from a relatively new IP after moving.

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        Mmm, I don’t like that, as now I have no idea why I’m shadowbanned.

        And by that, I don’t mean “I don’t know why I was banned for all my outrageous spammy comments.” I literally only posted wholesome, inoffensive, thought out stuff in 2 subs: a cartoon fandom and a self hosting community.

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      Shadowbans are illegal in the EU. They are technically legal but require the user to be notified of it, which doesn’t make it a “shadowban” anymore.

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      Reddit tracks things like the hardware associated with an account so you’d need a new IP and new phone/computer and email adress.

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        I happened to move. And in theory, Cromite’s anti-fingerprinting should hide that, but it’s possible I accessed it with the wrong browser some time…