The US sanctioning its states now
… forces of colonialism turned inward etc…
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"Wait, it’s just sanctions all the way down?"
don’t ask me how long it took me to realize we do not have an earth emote, i swear we had one that was like sister to 
in a pinch,
in a huge pinch,
America, no longer content to just sanction the rest of the world, has decided to also sanction itself
Go sanction yourself
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Yo that’s a civil war
(Edited addendum: adding this about 40 minutes into the post. I’ll say it may be hyperbolic to call this exact instance the shot that pops it off, but this being the ongoing policy, and likely going to ramp up as he keeps getting away with it, will almost assuredly cause a violent conflict between opposing state and fed factions in the US)
That’s almost assuredly why walz dropped, he didn’t want his state to get fucking sanctioned lmao
It’s over baby
Other states are going to ally with each other as they do more of this shit, bam you’ve yourself at least two different fucking countries
Motherfucking fed just sent it’s troops into minnesota, started killing and arresting citizens with explicit denouncement from the state, and is now sanctioning them
That is a war.
States have their own national guards, watch. Minnesota busts there’s out, another state offers support from their own, and you’ve got a chain reaction
That is a war.
It’ll be an odd war. Fascists on one side. The people (leftists and some liberals) on the other. Meanwhile the democratic party will be in the stands watching doing fucking nada to help. Yet they’ll be lecturing the people “violence is not the answer” and nagging people endlessly to donate as they proclaim the next election is the most important of our lifetime. Centrists will openly lurch to the right as they assume a massive victory for the fascists. Matty will have a unpaywalled article setting the tone. Fascism: Different places have different forms of government and it’s OK.
In all seriousness - Schumer and Jeffries won’t even discuss cutting ICE’s budget.
You might need to update your view soon to the new order, you’re right though that that is usually how this goes.
I’m saying we’re past something is happening, to something has happened.
You could be right though, but it does seem like a very much what’s going on on the internet view versus what’s changing in the material world.
My political perspective is sort of warped. When it comes to politics I spend all my time here or at Bluesky. I also watch cable news at the top of the hour but not so much anymore. I turned on CNN earlier and after just about 60 seconds some vile “expert” started to give his horrible take on Renee Good’s murder. He said “The shooting is a Rorschach test for—” and that point I had to close the tab because I was in danger of going into a rage, grabbing my monitor, and smashing it into smithereens on my desk.
Seriously - I don’t think there’s anything Trump could do to get the democrats to act like the country was in danger. They’ll be in campaign mode until the midterms. And right after that they’ll segue into presidential election campaign mode. Recently they rediscovered swears as they do once in a while. And every single time I hear something like “ICE needs to get the fuck out of
[local area]” - I want to scream. Getting far more likes and engagement is not actually action. Political messaging will not stop the fascists.Why would a lib ever do something more than yell? Their material conditions are good and they see no need to put themselves in harm’s way.
…and they can’t wait to use the revamped fascist machinery once they get into office themselves. As usual. They just ramp up their facade of opposition as Trump ramps up the audacity of his actions.
It’s the official start of the bleeding Kansas period, at least.
Eh I doubt it.
Look to history. As much terrorism and violence as the right did over the civil rights era when the US federal government used some level of strong-arm tactics including deploying troops, siccing the FBI on them, etc, etc the people murmured and murmured in rage and then exactly nothing happened. Their politicians raged at the podium, they raged in the papers, they raged on TV and then nothing happened.
That’s exactly what will happen this time. Trump will beat down Democratic opposition while at least half of Democratic voters cry foul for their party not standing up to him and the liberals and ourselves will seethe and rage. And there will be teeth gnashing and fiery speeches in the press and protests. But nothing will happen.
This isn’t going to cause the US to break apart. It’s not going to be civil war 2.0. It won’t cause alliances of states. It won’t result in challenges to federal power. It’ll result in Trump bowling over opposition to implement what he wants and then Dems once back in power refusing to use those levers of power he just used so effectively because of muh norms and need to rebuild civility and blah blah blah. Democratic voter-base rage and anger will simmer but not boil over. Not over this.
But the Civil Rights Act did eventually pass - the rage never quite boiled over because it got channeled into realizing something. Even if it was kinda the bare minimum and did nothing to address all the violent state repression that precipitated it, there was at least a clear legal victory that let people feel some relief.
Where is that relief for this? All I see is the pressure getting ratcheted up for a few years, the circle of people who don’t feel precarity constricts faster. And when the Dems eventually take office, they’ll put the funding back in place[1]. Pretend like ICE is different now. The usual song and dance. Pressure will get notched down, but nothing is done to fully abate it – let alone deal with the stress fractures.
Yes, this isn’t The Thing that kicks off a big decisive Event in the history books. But its also hard not to see it as a threshold of some sort. There is almost certainly not going to be a direct, legal challenge to federal power… but maybe we see a scattered, piecemeal decoupling. Some states start to develop a trajectory that, in time, becomes increasingly unrelated to that of the overall federal government. Not out of a conscious choice, but simply by necessity and circumstance.
though, what this does to Minnesota’s agriculture in the meantime… ↩︎
The war spreads further and Maduro breaks out of prison to lead the revolution. The empire finally collapses.
Will Luigi be a legendary lord in the maduro faction or will he get his own faction in Total War America?
Mamdani repatriates Maduro. (He already pre-cucked himself to the empire but I could pray)
''Diálogo si, guerra no, nunca nunca guerra
sino la guerra de clases’’
Putting that on my bingo card… Just figuring out whether for 2026 or 2027…
Jfc probably
Maduro has a kleptocracy to get back to. Zero chance he leads any revolution.
The US stole their oil and tankers recently.
The US fucking stole the PRESIDENT of Venezuela.
And you said Maduro runs a kleptocracy…fucking rube.
Trump is longtime con artist and grifter who is ALSO building a kleptocracy around himself. Maduro is also.
The US stole their oil and tankers recently.
The US fucking stole the PRESIDENT of Venezuela.
Both true and both a fucking outrage. But what does that have to do with my statement?
So dont believe what the long time con men and grifters are telling you, they have a vested interest in stealing Venezuelas oil. The only reason Maduro is brought up is because he was stolen by the United States government for a state show trial. And you use that opportunity to bad mouth a place you probably have never been the leader of a country that doesnt affect you at all.
You are an idiot
Lemmy today, Reddit yesterday
Yeah such a dictator his kleptocracy collapsed without his cult of personality holding it together, oh wait that’s the opposite of what happened
Absolute fucking moron
go look for Iraq’s WMDs
They didn’t exist. American Neo Cons needed an excuse to go nation building in the middle east. They thought “American style democracy” was some magic potion that would turn Iraq into an ally after toppling Saddam.
the same people who lied about that are lying about Maduro for the same reasons
Sometimes there are no “good guys” just bad guys and worse guys.
pathetic handwaving as you cling to american exceptionalism. the coward’s “human nature” argument
MN national guard has already been “providing security” to the protests, I have no idea what that has looked like on the ground.
I would hope so but I doubt it. They’ll only use the national guard to quell protests and most “left” states are run by Dems who all follow the same “violence is wrong” playbook. Also would the national guard even willingly attack ice?
We’ll find out soon! Walz has directed the national guard to support the state cops, but not ICE. If the state and the fed troops end up at odds it could get fucking real really fast
Few cops will support everyday people over the feds
If the 2nd American revolution starts in Minnesota, they’ll never let Wisconsin live it down
Yeah… We’re balkanizing.
I fucking hope so. Get it over with and then maybe China can come in and modernize my region. I want HSR between the major cities around here so I can visit friends more and local trains so I don’t have to fucking drive. Each city has middling transit of its own and there is technically a rail line connecting them but it’s abysmally slow (worse than driving) and only has 2 departures per day. Meanwhile, tier three cities in China are getting like a hundreds kms of rail built in under 5 years
If you want to will this into reality, it is critical that you educate yourself and those around you about the indigenous history of your land, lest you simply reproduce a settler-colonial entity (but smaller?)
Unfortunately balkanization would most likely end up with more settler colonial countries because respecting the treaties means that the native Americans are getting a lot more land than they’ve been getting.
Yeah that’s why I’m explicitly directing our comrades here to actively work against that. If it were to happen (it won’t, but it’s more fun to act like we live in the good timeline (:bloomer:)), we finally have a shot at being a part of a decolonial movement, but that work starts decades in advance (now!).
The US is an intentionally underdeveloped shit hole in a knockoff Gucci belt. The belt was made in China, to the exact low specs as ordered.
Temu-ass country
At least this means the flags are easier to 🔥🔥🔥?
Actually no because the flags are made of plastic that doesn’t burn like a well made flag out of fabric lol
Guys, c/bloomer is leaking again.
Ok well Minnesota can tell them to get the fuck out of their buildings.
Any state can passively withdraw support to federal organisations, and the federal government actually relies of state infrastructure to function.
That moves requires +0 in materialist thinking, I assume most US governors have -6
Man, if only we had a party in power that respected state’s rights…
Let me guess, the whole thing is made up because Tim Walz dared to volunteer to be part of the controlled opposition side…and of course that pathetic wimp is going to lie there and take it.
My bet is that Walz tries as hard as he can to do an Obama by giving a “This is not who we are” speech. It’s filled with emotion but it is not impassioned. After all - he needs to appeal “moderate” GOP voters. It’s full of soaring yet entirely empty rhetoric. Of course - it has zero actionable plans. In fact - he doesn’t even hint at what his state and the dems could do.
Bluesky libs are furious with him so he retreats to Twitter. His Bluesky activity becomes an autopilot afterthought. Some months later he tries to do a Clinton by appearing on a talk show with a winning yet consolatory vibe. Slick Willie was unctuous but he had winning charm and could play the saxophone. Unslick Timmy tries to capture that magic by “surprising” his host by bringing out a melodica and the host - don’t you know - asks the audience “Do you wanna hear him play? Dontcha? I do!” Somehow the house band already perfectly knows the parts of the song he plays. It’s some current crappy and generic pop hit. He makes a few flubs. The mistakes are supposed to be endearing. The applause is surprisingly tepid.
He says both of his kids love the song. Actually they don’t love it at all. It was picked by his consultants as being most “appropriate”. His second effort at capturing old-school and dated dem glory is also a big failure. Reddit sleuths discover his kids don’t even know the name of the singer they are suppose to love. Walz is roasted all over social media as a ginormous phony. All his social media account posts become mechanical and stale.
Daily he checks in with his consultants who are forced to tell him his metrics are “challenging”. They are lying to him and he knows they are but he thanks just the same for every update. His numbers are in the effing toilet! For months on end he is not seen in public anywhere. He’s too busy crying into his soup about his nearly non-existent 2028 presidential nom chances. How did thing go so wrong? Why didn’t his consultants’ advice work? They sure get paid enough - hand-over-fucking-fist.
You are being extremely optimistic with the whole Walz becoming unpopular thing. Progressive libs have locked onto him and will not give him up unless he like slaughters a puppy on live TV or something. Trump praising his fascist use of the National Guard during BLM wasn’t enough to turn them off. And they’ll gladly look the other way when he does it again, talk show appearances or no.
I remember watching the VP debate on the hextube, and Tim was just doing “yes, and” to JD’s ethnic cleansing plans for 90 minutes. Libs truly have the memory of cheez whiz.
They’ll give up on him the second it looks like he’s gonna lose, and they’ll all rally behind Gruesome Newsom
LOL. Yeah, fair. With two reactionary fucks who just happen to still keep the mask on, how to choose?
Meet Potential Man for Walz
They know it’s the Viking Minnesotans not the Somali Minnesotans who get USDA funds, right?
They truly do not care at this point
I mean, all minnesotans will hurt from this, the poor especially
it’s a blue state, so it’s one of the bad ones. no further analysis needed.
Contradictions baby. Contradictions everywhere.
So the new thing is “everyone I don’t like is doing fraud” because they are racist to Somalis?
Citations needed did a short ep on it this week. I was out of the loop on it entirely
There are ~300,000 Somalis that are doing enough fraud that justifies starving the entire state.
So all of this, a murder, the ice raids, now people going hungry can be traced back to a youtube video?
If by YouTube video, you mean the video of George Floyd being murdered by a cop, then yes. That situation was the beginning of the Trump-Walz vendetta. Then Timmy had to go and run for VP which really pissed Donny off. This whole situation is retribution.
Don’t forget, many people in Trump’s inner circle currently are from Minnesota (Hegseth) and the upper Midwest in general (Noem). Easy for Trump to hit ‘em where it hurts.
Pretty sure he’s talking about that guy who went and tried to walk into a bunch of daycares then decided that since they wouldn’t let some random creep in to film the kids they were all secret Somalian fraud rings.
Yes, I’m aware, but I’m saying this whole situation traces its history back to several years prior.
Also, I’m of the mind that the kid was paid to make that video and it was used to manufacture consent for what we’re seeing today.
…George Floyd being murdered by a cop, then yes. That situation was the beginning of the Trump-Walz vendetta.
Trump literally praised Walz’ use of the National Guard against BLM protesters after George Flloyd’s murder. Here’s KKKopmala bragging about it to show the feud was petty and started much sooner than Floyd’s murder.
The video was a big turning point, but they had been railing against Minnesota and somalis for a while before that.
They’ve been railing against MN since… well, when was the last time MN voted red, Nixon? They’ve been railing against Somalis since Ilhan Omar came on the scene (and was the first national politician to really talk shit about Israel). Laura Loomer, Ali Alexander, and Jacob Wohl went to MPLS ca. 2018/19 and made a “documentary” about her which really put MNs Somali population in the national discourse for the first time.
Amazing that they have been working on this so long and the best propaganda they have come up with is a typo on a sign
This sounds like a big deal, like one of those weeks where decades happen
Been idly wondering if I was gonna see the United States balkanize in my lifetime. Didn’t think it would start this decade…
(by the way, keep an eye Colorado River water rights)
Did not expect Minnesota to be the catalyst
by the way, keep an eye Colorado River water rights
I’m not super familiar with US geography or agriculture - but i’m guessing that water from Minnesota is important for the central and south western states?
Nah, Minnesota doesn’t have anything to do with it. (er, that i’m aware of…)
The river’s mostly fed by snowmelt from Rocky Mountains in Colorado. Major source of water for Navada, Southern California, and Arizona. Water output has been in decline for a few decades and if trends continue (see “Climate Change”), water usage is gonna become a major point of contention between all involved parties.
Is the implication that if Minnesota breaks from the union, Colorado (and other blue states) would follow?
No, I don’t think so. Just that there’s inter-state turmoil brewing. How it plays out is anybody’s guess.
The US doesn’t pipe water that far. The West gets water from rivers like the Missouri, the Colorado, the Rio Grande, the Arkansas, etc. They also unsustainably draw from natural aquifers.
Just wait until Minnesota nationalizes(?) its farms. Minnesotan SSR 2026 here we come.
The technical term would be municipalization, although in the us this can also mean the creation of a sub-county level municipality where their previously was none.
Is it just me or does that stonework on the dept of agriculture look like a bunch of swastikas
I am 99% sure I have seen that design of swastika used on temples in East Asia.
No bread, next they will take away circus to
Which one is Minnesota again?
I was thinking up jokes but they were all lame. Google images came to the rescue. I actually laughed out loud. Something about it is really funny to me.
It’s still funny to me as I’m typing this. But I can’t explain why. Minnesota Nice Japanese Battle Flag - maybe?
Minnesota, the Vanguard State
It’s starting to make sense tbh
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The best state I am totally not bias.
It’s smack in the middle of the northern edge. Their weather is especially shit because some quirk of geography means every gust of cold air in Canada enters the US through Minnesota. Their local democratic party was formed by merging with a socialist party, and you bet that’s watered down by now, but they still have better politics than any state in a few states radius. They talk just a little bit like someone doing a bad impersonation of a Swedish accent.
