Is just the same as lemmy? What makes it different? Is it similar to kbin? Why is it meant to be better according so some people?

  • Neondragon25@piefed.socialEnglish
    4·
    8 hours ago

    Been using Piefed on the Interstellar app, its pretty nice. As other have said, the collecting of seemingly duplicate posts into one is great. Overall it doesn’t feel much different on an average use case.

      • neondragon25@lemmy.zip
        3·
        8 hours ago

        And a Lemmy.zip, as I was on Kbin, back in the day, but that also went down. So I diversified my Fedifolio. I also use the Boost app, and Voyager, just in case any of those apps go down.

  • Owl@mander.xyz
    13·
    1 day ago

    You’ll get a negative social credit score if you join PieFed and ditch lemmy

  • Asidonhopo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    1 day ago

    So I created an account over on piefed.social and was browsing by /all and saw some communities I have no interest in ever seeing. I navigate through to the community and there’s no “block community” function? How am I to browse by /all as is my wont, without seeing furry porn? Nothing wrong with it but it’s just not my jam.

    Honestly /all is the best way to find new active communities to join and it’s worked here at Lemmy just fine. Or maybe I missed the button on piefed, or devs are adding it as you read this.

      • Asidonhopo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 day ago

        I looked again, if it’s on there it’s very well hidden. I’m using the website btw, maybe the app has it more easy to access.

        Edit: I looked in the settings menu and you can block communities through there but ideally for me there be a way to do it from the page of the community itself.

        • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
          3·
          18 hours ago

          Jumped onto my desktop to check. You can do it from the comm page by clicking on the hamburger button (…) of any post, and there’ll be an option there to block the comm. No, I have no idea why a comm-wide setting is only found under a post-specifi button.

        • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
          4·
          23 hours ago

          It’s on the 3 dot menu on every post.

          Makes sense to have it on the community too, tho. I’ll find a place for it.

  • zoey@lemmy.librebun.comEnglish
    75·
    2 days ago

    https://join.piefed.social/features/

    Differences between Lemmy and PieFed

    • Comments with -10 score are collapsed by default.
    • Communities are organized into topics. See https://piefed.social/topics.
    • Image-heavy communities can have a tiled/masonry view, like https://piefed.social/c/pics@lemmy.world
    • People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.
    • Hide all posts based on keyword filters.
    • Keyboard shortcuts.
    • Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation.
    • Better UI design (somewhat subjective!)
    • Improved hotness ranking algorithm (subjective)
    • Voting is private.
    • See also features for healthy communities.
    • Each community has it’s own wiki. Demo
    • tired_n_bored@lemmy.world
      2·
      14 hours ago

      I don’t like the fact that users receive a banner next to their name if they get downvoted a lot. This makes other people judge negatively the comment even before reading it. I think it also encourages people to keep downvoting and discourages to upvote (as what happens with mass down votes of a comment on Reddit just for the sake of doing so).

      Edit: sorry for my English, it’s not my native language + I just woke up

    • GamingChairModel@lemmy.world
      111·
      1 day ago

      People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.

      Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation.

      I think any kind of reputation score should be community specific. There are users whose commenting style fits one community but not another, and their overall reputation should be understood in the context of which communities actually like them rather than some kind of global average.

    • Aqarius@lemmy.world
      11·
      2 days ago

      How exactly does the private vote thing work? I thought votes being federated was inherent to the way the fediverse is designed.

      • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
        1·
        13 hours ago

        Private votes are just normal votes except without the federation. So their effect is only felt on the local instance.

      • howrar@lemmy.ca
        2·
        1 day ago

        I believe piefed creates fake accounts to do the voting so it doesn’t federate the actual account that cast the vote.

        • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
          1·
          13 hours ago

          That’s how it used to work but I got rid of it because there were too many unintended side-effects. Now a private vote is just one that is not federated.

          • howrar@lemmy.ca
            1·
            8 hours ago

            What were the side-effects? I was thinking of implementing something that doesn’t directly federate votes, so it would be good to know what problems I’d need to solve before that can be done.

            • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
              1·
              1 hour ago

              Some admins really love watching who votes for what and banning people based on that.

              You can disagree with that if you like but if it means they get pissed enough to defederate your whole instance, you lose.

              If your instance is just you and a handful of others, no one will notice or care. But once you have 1000 users the amount of anonymous votes will be noticed and there will be consequences. Maybe not defederation but everyone banned for upvoting bigoted content or vote manipulation will migrate to your instance and you’ll be hosting the biggest shitbirds around.

              I don’t see a solution to this. As long as admins snoop on people’s votes that will be the dynamic and PieFed puts itself at a disadvantage by doing anything different.

    • GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip
      15·
      2 days ago

      Hide all posts based on keyword filters.

      I’m very interested in this. I’m kinda stunned that lemmy doesn’t do this natively.

    • Supervisor194@lemmy.world
      181·
      2 days ago

      Comments with -10 score are collapsed by default. Voting is private.

      I don’t particularly care for these two items. I used to think user-curation was a good thing, but comparing Lemmy to Reddit, I have to say I no longer feel that way. Voting matters less on Lemmy and I think it’s better for it, all things considered.

      • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
        1·
        13 hours ago

        The -10 can be changed in your settings. Set it to -1000 to show everything :)

      • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
        10·
        2 days ago

        No, admins designate it.

        Most instances do not use this feature, afaik. piefed.social does but most of the others do not.

        • tired_n_bored@lemmy.world
          1·
          15 hours ago

          In the code there is a function that recognizes if the name of the community contains “meme” and if so does not add the upvote to the vote counter of the user

          • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
            3·
            13 hours ago

            I wrote that code. It can be turned off or on by the instance admin. When an instance is created It’s off by default.

            Originally, when I wrote the feature comparison page, it could not be turned off.

      • zoey@lemmy.librebun.comEnglish
        17·
        2 days ago

        I have no idea! I’m already hosting Lemmy so I don’t really see the point personally.
        Just thought I’d look it up for OP.

      • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
        41·
        2 days ago

        I seriously doubt it because I’m pretty sure the point is to remove the ability for bot accounts and spammers/etc from farming up some karma to appear more legit for their nefarious/spamming purposes.

        • ccunning@lemmy.world
          7·
          2 days ago

          I think either way could possibly be exploited.

          And putting all that aside, I think all image-centric subs should probably be included. It’s just as easy to farm karma with cute cats and flowers as it is with memes.

          • tpyo@lemmy.world
            3·
            1 day ago

            Excluding OC communities, right? Like you’re not discounting people who put a lot of time and effort into their photography? Or even if they’re not great photographers sharing pictures of their plants and gardens and hobbies, and pets, should have the same allowances as text only posts

            • ccunning@lemmy.world
              4·
              1 day ago

              This is a great comment; my initial reaction was “No because it would be easy to claim others OC was your own” but then the same could be said about text or link contributions.

              Then I thought “well maybe reputation should only be based on comments” but that could be unfair to those who primarily post vs comment.

              So now I don’t know what my position is. The best method is probably a blend of multiple strategies that can only be determined by engaging with the enemy.

              tl;dr: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

              • tpyo@lemmy.world
                3·
                1 day ago

                I appreciate this!

                Generally oc forward subs are very stringent about it truly being OC and if caught posting something that isn’t theirs will face consequences

                Blurry pics of a cat’s right up on the lens is low effort. Any pictures you see posted in a place like https://lemmy.world/c/astrophotography will not be low effort because those are removed. They also require the submissions to be OC

    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
      7·
      2 days ago

      I’m not able to see any content behind those links or even the root site of https://piefed.social/ without what looks like creating an account and logging in. Is account creation and login required to interact with piefed at all? No anonymous reading?

  • LumpyPancakes@piefed.socialEnglish
    381·
    2 days ago

    Others have covered most.

    For me the one killer feature is grouping of duplicate articles over multiple instances into one post, with comments from all instances listed therein.

    This takes away the ghost town feeling of Lemmy, and the frustration of seeing the same post multiple times while scrolling.

    The one bad thing is we can’t upload images to posts or comments, so it’s several steps forward, one step backwards.

    Edit: you can post images if you’re using Summit on Android, just can’t seem to do it via the PWA / Web version.

  • stinerman@midwest.socialEnglish
    131·
    2 days ago

    It is similar to Lemmy in that it’s also a link aggregation platform. What makes it different is that it is created by different people using different code and has different priorities. But the same basic features are present.

    I can’t speak to why it might be better than Lemmy because I don’t use it. Maybe some people think it’s better because of the features it offers. Maybe others don’t like the Lemmy devs and prefer supporting a different application. There are lots of possible reasons.

  • HubertManne@piefed.socialEnglish
    61·
    2 days ago

    To some degree they are just web frontends to the backend technology. kbin was done by this guy earnest which had a feel I just liked better but something happened with him and the fork mbin is the only real option now which is fine but earnest seemed to have a vision that did not come to complete fruition, I did not use lemmy much but when I compared the two I went with kbin. Was on mbin when kbin blew up but piefed came along and eventually I tried it. Its main thing is it has these topics where it nests communities. So I can browse the topic comics which has a bunch of communities where people post comics in it. Its handy. I really like some of the nice options like I can block on keywords and allow nsfw to show (I swear some people tag pictures with it because its showing to much ankle. ok that was an exaggeration but man peoples ideas of what is not safe I think is a super broad spectrum and im not really concerned about nsfw) in your feed without blurring and another than will sorta darken bot submissions a bit so you can tell when scrolling. Now all this is because its been super active with development so it can bit a bit wonky. when scrolling I see this thing where text overlaps and messes things up but ultimately its a minor nuissance and I can scroll up or down to get what I want and the other things are so useful plus I can see more is to come so seems to be the most likely to keep on getting better. Anyway that is why I cam where I currently am. Its gotten a spike in popularity too which caused it to be sorta offline for a bit a week or so back but it was pretty short and they got things going. I can tell you anyone used to earnest with kbin will think nothing of that (kbin was legendary with its downtime). So if you want more stability go with lemmy/mbin but if you want more features go with piefed. Keep in mind stability is mostly about instances so a particular lemmy or mbin could be more or less stable. Anyway I like features.

  • frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip
    51·
    2 days ago

    I’d be inclined to check it out but it looks like they don’t have a mobile app I can use. Lemmy at least has a few different feature robust apps you can use to access Lemmy. I might check it out when I’m on desktop, but that would be a fraction of the amount of time I spend online.